like the title says, did Wade and Butcher ever make a blued razor?
i recently came across a Wade and Butcher (yes, i did buy it) that seems to be blued, the blade looks very much like some of the older gun bluing that i have seen.
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like the title says, did Wade and Butcher ever make a blued razor?
i recently came across a Wade and Butcher (yes, i did buy it) that seems to be blued, the blade looks very much like some of the older gun bluing that i have seen.
Could be a deep patina. I have some razors that looked blued, but are just old and have a nice patina.
the thing that makes me think that it could be is the fact that i have some with a lot of patina, and i havent ever had one that looked like it, i may be wrong though, but if it is patina, it a lot more than i have ever seen (in my short amount of experience). but anyways, here are some pics of it, maybe that will help
I would say Yes. see.
Mike
Old razors of silver steel had a high silver content. They will tarnish as does silverware in a bluish hue. I think this might be what you are seeing.
silver?
really?
wow, i never new
does this mean silver polish would work for this razor?
(silver polish is all i have at the moment, until i can get around to getting something else)
Silver steel contains no silver. Some of the literature going back hundreds of years made reference to silver steel with a tiny amount of silver in it but the silver steel in razors even from the 18th century was called that because when highly polished it looked like silver.
In 1820, Michael Faraday discovered a way to add about 1/5 of 1% of silver to cast steel.Quote:
Old razors of silver steel had a high silver content.
(He tried to discover stainless steel. And he did it, when experimented with nickel and cast steel. But at that time nobody needed this.)
After that, many companies used stamps "Silver Steel" or "Celebrated Silver Steel Razor" as advertising of the quality of their razors.
So, no, and there was no silver in the silver steel.
As I understood it, Faraday's silver steel was 2% silver and was used in razors, but I digress! I doubt the razor was blued, but could be wrong, as usual!! Patina, I believe. Matters not , I suppose!:rolleyes:
yes i had couple of them
So Wade and Butcher DID produce Blued blades! There you have it!
May be, somebody wants to understand all process of metal-colouring.
"Metal Colouring and Bronzing", Arthur H.Hiorns, London, 1907.(PDF).
Thanks for the link! It won't work where I am, but will definitely be seen when I get home! I wish there was a book on at least W and B's Which was correct and complete! So many details in just one maker's history. The cool thing about this forum to me, at least, is learning of early history. It is cool to be able to deal with such old things in a useful manner. It would be great to have all the scoop on Greaves and other Sheffield makers, some obscure ! That book, Is There ONE?
could be that someone blued the blade after purchase to prevent rust?
That book isn't about razors makers, about metal.
It could be a razor maker. Many razors have gun bluing tangs.Quote:
could be that someone blued the blade after purchase to prevent rust?
Interesting you would say that. I can almost see someone making those scales, long ago, in a trench or on a ship, and bluing it as well! A person would have to hold it, but it seems that the hone wear is blued too! History, for certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by iwitness
I've seen Solingen full hollows with the top of the spine and maybe the tang blued. Come to think of it , I've seen USA razors with the same treatment. I've never seen a Sheffield or any other factory blade fully blued. Doesn't mean that they didn't do it at some time or another. They made a heck of a lot of razors and I haven't seen them all. I was trying to get them all but gave up on it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by iwitness
Jimmy, We still have time. We'll try.;)Quote:
I was trying to get them all but gave up on it.
Yeah you just tried to buy up all the hones ever made instead :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
you can have all the razors you want but please leave me a few w&b medium celebrated hollow ground razors, i have one and have been looking for another one for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by manah