Filharmonica Sub Cero

I know this has been asked before and it dosent belong to me nor am I bidding on it BUT- are the Filly Sub Cero the Ne Plus Ultra of straights? There is one on the bay for $1200. can anything that was semi mass produced reayyl be so good as to merit that kind of pricing,or is someone just trolling and trying to get lucky? It is the best looking one that I have seen there but maybe if it were a custom made highly decorated razor you could say that the time and work made it worth a priemium....but thats a lot of wood for a razor,I dont own one but I have a few that are reconized name brands that were professionally honed and there great,but can anything be that much better?
Thanks
Griz
P.S. I know its in the eye of the beholder but really is there anything that special about it?

Grizzley, you're likely to get the usual responses to this type of question: "It's worth as much as you're willing to pay for it", or another favorite, "it's no different than paying big $$$ in any other hobby"....

It's pretty much BS to be honest. It's no more than a case of a greedy swine who throws out an outrageous price, hoping to cash in on a fool with too much disposable income riding high on the Straight Train. And he will likely find such a fool, too.

And no, this overpriced beauty is not some magical razor blessed by the gods. At the end of the day $40 razor will do the same thing as a $1200 razor, as in shave you.

Have fun,

Ryan

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Originally Posted by Ryan82

Grizzley, you're likely to get the usual responses to this type of question: "It's worth as much as you're willing to pay for it", or another favorite, "it's no different than paying big $$$ in any other hobby"....

It's pretty much BS to be honest. It's no more than a case of a greedy swine who throws out an outrageous price, hoping to cash in on a fool with too much disposable income riding high on the Straight Train. And he will likely find such a fool, too.

And no, this overpriced beauty is not some magical razor blessed by the gods. At the end of the day $40 razor will do the same thing as a $1200 razor, as in shave you.

Have fun,

Ryan

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Thanks,thats what I already thought,I just needed to hear it again....just incase,but in the end just what I thought
Thanks
Griz
P.S. I just got a great idea,since its in Japan It would be a blast to make a $1200 dollar bill and pay for it with that. Dont think the secret service would think so though

Do you happen to have a link for the Fili, I feel the need to lay eyes on this razor the seller thinks is worth so much. And no, I'm not a potential buyer, especially after the comments I made above! :)

In guessing its the same seller that keeps putting razors up at ridiculous prices.

Don't forget guys that there are collectors out there, people who value razors from entirely different qualities than shaving ability. It's an expensive razor, and you might expect brilliant shaves from it - but the price may be driven by low production numbers or something. The description says: "CONDITION : Relatively good condition-very tiny rust on the surface only." and "It should be sharpened before use."
Among the sellers other items I also spotted a $25 razor. Perhaps this Sub Cero is the holy grail for collectors of spanish razors or something. Just a thought.

I find the price fairly inflated, if I am not wrong those are not the rarest Fillis.

The people are fool, if nobody would pay more than 100US$ by a filly they wouldn't cost such as unbelievable prices

It's contradictory because filarmonica was created has a cheap answer to the "expensive" Solingen blades in Spain. They became popular because they were low cost products, and their scales talk about a low cost product, no ebony, horn....ugly plastic, the toys of my daughter are better made than the scales of a filly

I had a mint SubZero, and I personally didn't care for it.. I ended up trading it for a Dovo bismark to a friend who had abrader face than mine. I use the bismark more than I ever used the monster filly. It is all about what fits your face. I think that is why there is different kinds....

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It's contradictory because filarmonica was created has a cheap answer to the "expensive" Solingen blades in Spain. They became popular because they were low cost products, and their scales talk about a low cost product, no ebony, horn....ugly plastic, the toys of my daughter are better made than the scales of a filly

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You know that makes sence,the one thing that has bothered me the most is the fact that they look so chezzy and command such high prices,the scales are AT best crappy,ant the color choices are really bad,the best you can hope for is black or brown,not that horrible green. Oh well theres one born every second.......

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Originally Posted by str8fencer

Don't forget guys that there are collectors out there, people who value razors from entirely different qualities than shaving ability. It's an expensive razor, and you might expect brilliant shaves from it - but the price may be driven by low production numbers or something. The description says: "CONDITION : Relatively good condition-very tiny rust on the surface only." and "It should be sharpened before use."
Among the sellers other items I also spotted a $25 razor. Perhaps this Sub Cero is the holy grail for collectors of spanish razors or something. Just a thought.

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your probablbly right-This razor was made from the armor that Cortez wore while concering the Incas!

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Originally Posted by bharner

In guessing its the same seller that keeps putting razors up at ridiculous prices.

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Indeed it is. What surprises me the most is the fact he has 100% positive feedback. I guess no one wants to admit when they've been ripped off....

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Originally Posted by Grizzley1

your probablbly right-This razor was made from the armor that Cortez wore while concering the Incas!

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Cortez was in Mexico and the Incas were in Peru, you are thinking about Pizarro (the spanish who was in Peru) or about the Aztec empire, conquered by Cortez.

I have seen a pic of this razor, it's a bit ancient, the original owner showing his straights.... :rofl2:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYAGWKD6QN...tre_5manos.jpg

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Originally Posted by du212

Cortez was in Mexico and the Incas were in Peru, you are thinking about Pizarro (the spanish who was in Peru) or about the Aztec empire, conquered by Cortez.

I have seen a pic of this razor, it's a bit ancient, the original owner showing his straights.... :rofl2:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYAGWKD6QN...tre_5manos.jpg

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LOL!

(I like that one....)

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Originally Posted by du212

Cortez was in Mexico and the Incas were in Peru, you are thinking about Pizarro (the spanish who was in Peru) or about the Aztec empire, conquered by Cortez.

I have seen a pic of this razor, it's a bit ancient, the original owner showing his straights.... :rofl2:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYAGWKD6QN...tre_5manos.jpg

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No one likes a know it al......LOL

I have a Sub Zero 13 and I like it a lot, but it does not worth that price.

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Originally Posted by rarreola

I have a Sub Zero 13 and I like it a lot, but it does not worth that price.

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I agree, they are very good razors, then again $1200 is a fair chunk of money. To me.

Over the period of the last 18 months, I've made quite a few purchases that at the time was considered rather foolish, and proof of the old saying that there is one born every second.

I especially remember buying a NOS EPBD for the ridiculous amount of $405.
That particular razor is still NOS, never used. If the bay is anything to judge by, I get a feeling that that might not be the worst investment in my life, should I decide to offer it up to the market:)

My point is this:
What any given product is worth to each and every one of us varies. There is no right or wrong in that, just different views on an items value, and different reasons for why we buy what we do.