I like your philosophy on hunting and would like to get into it but I'd only hunt animals I can eat and find uses for non-edible parts if possible (like antlers for scales).
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I like your philosophy on hunting and would like to get into it but I'd only hunt animals I can eat and find uses for non-edible parts if possible (like antlers for scales).
Over here in Holland it is forbidden to hunt with anything but a rifle. There are a few hunters who get their permit to hunt actually and that only for a few months (i believe from october through januari). We anly have small game here. The deer are protected and may be shot by only a small group selected people (the royalties are part of them). Then we have wild boars, hares, rabbits, pheasants and wild ducks.
The way they hunt is: a group of people go into the woods making a lot of noise so the animals are scared out of the woods. The "hunters" are standing at the treeline and every animal that comes in sight is shot.
For me, there is no hunting in that. It gives me more pleasure to shoot at the carnival...
Bowhunting is absolutely forbidden here. That would be the only way I would hunt. I would track down the pray, and only shoot when I know I have a clean shot and could kill the animal with just one arrow.
Well that challenge we have with our 3d-shooting. The only thing is, we don't have to track down the animals and if we miss, they are not hurt. The targets are set on varying distances, from 10 to 60 meters. I have shot a standing bear at 60 meters with the first arrow.
Yes, the foam animals are a american invention. They were originally made for practising the real hunt. But as many more archers saw the fun in just shooting for points, 3d-rounds were organized. There are many americans who also shoot these rounds. The World Champion is an American...:bow
Check out:http://www.rinehart3-d.com/
There is one situtation where I would hunt for meat. If I am stranded on a deserted island, the first thing I would build is a shelter and sitting in that shelter I would make my bow and arrows. Then I would hunt, just to stay alive.
I was a flyfisherman for about 25 years, I gave that up for archery and I must say, I get the same satisfaction from shooting!
On topic: too bad you can't make scales out of fish-scales :roflmao
First of all what they do in those "hunting" videos is really not the hunting it is the killing.
Hunting season in my area is really just the time the good hunters are allowed to kill the game they have hunted throughout the year. They spent ten months hunting and getting to know the habits of their prey, then they go out during the allowed killing season and harvest it. To stalk prey track it and then kill it is a good way to go home hungry unless you are very very good at it and game is very plentiful. The biggest difference between Europe and the US as far a hunting goes is that we still have plentiful indeed often overabundant game to hunt while Europe is by comparison barren ground.
Used to shoot a foam bambi off the roof of the haus to simulate a tree stand.
Oh BTW, we call that a "drive" here Pinda.
Where I come from we use people, here in Florida they use dogs, where i come from we shoot dogs for chasing deer. :shrug:
I've found they can be very challenging shooting even with a rifle or shotgun if the only "edge" is a dirt road.
BTW you might be interested to know that my favorite rifle is a 6.5x55 swede!
Not a normal caliber over here by any means, and even less mainstream as it is a sporterized 96 Mauser that came out of Carl Gustav in 1900. It still shoots grate!
Of course if you don't shoot rifle this may mean nothing to you.
Ever tried carbon fiber arrows? I shot some the other day and was fairly impressed. They weren't mine though, and I didn't see the price tag or I might not have been as keen on them.
LOOK A MOOSE!!!! ";" AND HE'S SMILING AT YA! SHOOT DA DIRTY BUGGER!!
Though I don't own any, I would love to have
a razor with wood scales. Curly maple that is...... :)
Terry
wood here also, but i have been thinking of carbon fiber also.
Point 1) The hunter should be sure of his target, if not he should not shoot.
Point 2)Things happen. If you try to track the game immediately it will keep running, if you do not give immediate chase it will stop running in a few meters and lay down. Therefore the animal is not chased to death.
Well, given that extinct is just endangerment taken to its extreme end point, I'd have to say yes, extinct is great.
The problem with extinct, though, is that you miss all the exciting peaks and dips that come with endangered: White Rhino ivory scale prices vary wildly on the scale stock market depending on whether that month's captive breeding programme was successful or not, and the speculators move in to drive the price higher or lower accordingly.
And then of course there are the bad scale speculation loans. These display a lot of volatility. The worst case I can recall in recent history was the Amur Tiger femur scales debarkle. Back in the 1940s there were only about 40 individuals left alive on the planet, and femur scales were topping 20000USD a pair. Then the bloody tree-hugging hippies moved in and brought it back from the brink, the bottom fell out of the market, and many people's retirement funds went down the chute because of it. If someone had bothered to do a proper cost/benefit analysis they would have realised that keeping them on the brink of extinction indefinitely would have been the only logical course of economic action. But as we all know, people can be short-sighted sometimes.
:tu
James.
Hmm it's legal to hunt with bow and arrow in Denmark. And by all accounts I know we're counted as part of "Western Europe". But first you have to have a regular hunting permit and then a bow hunting permit on top of that. And I think that by law you must also always have a "fetching dog with you".
My cousins husband had a funny story about a guy who had taught a poodle to fetch poultry
Btw: I thought one of the Americans would have noted this by now, but if you have a big enough gun you just have to hit close to the animal in order to kill it :)
I agree with Pinda..... no new ivory!
I like wood, bone, and the new plastics like Traveller uses.
I, like a lot of guys, like wood, but I am not crazy about epoxy finished wood. It is better than plastic, but I prefer the oil finished natural woods. And, I do like weathered, old Ivory - with lots of grain and very yellowed. Ivory with character!
Steve
Mammoth ivory coffee or blue, sheephorn scales somewhat figured but translucent, Iron wood
My dream setup would be a razor with scales made from Illegal Elephant Ivory displayed in a bowl made of a Gorilla skull that sits next to a jar displaying an unborn human fetus. :y
Occasionally I'll see some custom wood scales that I like but most often even though I can appreciate the work that goes into fine wood scales, I'm not a fan of wood in general. Partly I think it's the greater thickness of wood scales that can seem to detract from the overall razor/scale aesthetic.
I'm as green as green can get on making my own scales, but I decided to start right off with horn. So far, I love it because it can be made as thin as the old bakelite scales and even more flexible. It files and sands like a dream. Now the challenge to get a workable presentable set!:)
I like bone scales and want to try camel bone next as it's supposed to be a close visual twin to antique ivory.
Finally, cast resin scales from molds made of vintage scales for traditional as close to original restos as possible are on my research list, but I don't know how flexible the cast epoxy resins are.:shrug:
Chris L
Oh, and BTW, that's what's great about SRP. It's such a repository of great info and discussion that an old thread like this is perennial!
The darn issues is I am afraid to use my non-plastic scaled razors. At least the vintage ones. I know I shouldn't. I just am.
I would have to say I do love translucent scales. Like vintage tortuous shell and Travellers scales.
Hi,
For me it's natural materials with a more organic feel, so bone, wood etc. I'm waiting very patiently for a custom with mammoth ivory!
I feel we have a responsibility & am opposed to using anything endangered. Ivory is very beautiful, but i like elephants too!
Feels a bit strange to see such a respected name in the straight razor world with a junior status!
Welcome Darrel.
I have only tried ebony, platic and celluloid (at least i think it is)
I prefer the ebony and wooden scales, dont like plastic and artificial materials in general and on scales i find that they are a little soft..i like the stiffness of the wood more.
Wood with an interesting grain pattern.
1) Ivory
2) Buffalo horn
3) Ebony
4) Stag
5) Cow horn
1 Ivory (any type)
2 tortoise shell
3 ebony
I have found a shop that sells reclaimed Ivory and tortoise shell. The pieces aren't big enough to make a one-piece scales out of, but you use the peices as an inlay!
Now, where is that old piano?:hmmm:
M
Carbon fiber scales are attractive and a very practical material. My personal preference is for wood.
Handles hmmm?? On another venue I'm know as Smokin. For scales, I'm partial to horn and have a strange weakness for the DOVO fake turtle.
There are some people who hunt with big guns because they think it will allow them to get close, but a miss is a miss. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, and neither are legal hunting tools. The people who use the biggest guns often know the least about what they are doing and are trying to compensate for their lack of knowledge. Big guns also destroy more meat.
Bowhunting is the toughest legal hunting technique I know. Regulations on that in the US vary by state. Using dogs is not common, and I don't know any bowhunter that would do it. Dogs aren't stealthy enough. Bow is usually only used for deer, which are so numerous they are considered a pest in many areas.
Letting a deer go for a while after it has been seriously wounded actually saves you some time. If it feels safe, the deer will lay down and die. If you keep getting close to it, the adrenaline will allow it to get up and run again. The time that you wait depends on the seriousness of the wound and the temperature outside.
I firmly believe that being able to respectfully kill and process an animal for food is something that every meat-eating man should be able to do. Buying meat in a store is like using a Mach 3- convenient, quick, easy for the average joe. Hunting/killing for food is very much like using a straight. A lot of equipment prep time, practicing of the skills, and it is something that nearly all of our grandfathers could or did do.
I do it because I enjoy the prep time, and the practice time, and the time actually spent in the woods. I don't like the killing or the processing, but I do it because I feel I should. It is too easy to distance ourselves from what we eat, wrapped up in the package at the store.
I'm off-topic now, and I don't think I've even made my point properly...
J.
I once met a vegetarian who said "anyone who wants to eat meat should have to kill it for themselves"
I thought about what he said, and thought "What a good idea!" and I agreed with him.
He was trying to wind me up as he knew I love game and enjoy "taking" it when I can.
BTW, the UK is one of the cheapest places in the developed world to buy Game because most people don't like the fact that it was harvested by hunting! I don't mind:D Now where are those wild boar sausages.
Happy hunting M:D
1. Very old carved ivory
2. Very old tortoiseshell
3. Very old horn
4. Sharkskin.
:rock::rock::rock:
Sharkskin? On scales?
- Ebony.
- Almost any of Traveller's scale masterpieces.
Not necessarily in that order...