Saw this on the bay and to me it looks like it was made from a file:
VINTAGE LARGE PLASTIC BAKELITE 1800 S STRAIGHT RAZOR KNIFE | eBay
Am I wrong?
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Saw this on the bay and to me it looks like it was made from a file:
VINTAGE LARGE PLASTIC BAKELITE 1800 S STRAIGHT RAZOR KNIFE | eBay
Am I wrong?
Looks like it’s a ‘decorated’ spine. My Friodur has something similar.
I am only guessing but that does look like a repurposed file.
i know any good steal can be made sharp enough to shave with, but, i would not shave with that. I seriously doubt that started its life as a razor.
i have shaved with a razor that had been rework from a file and it was a fine shaver. old files are usually great steel and when they wear out it is good to re-purpose them... several custom makers on this forum have in the past reground files to make razors. especially when they were starting out.
I don't think that thing is anywhere near "1800's". Sure looks like it was ground from a file to me. Workmanship involved appears to be decent from the photos. It's pretty hefty too.
The seller isn't the most knowledgeable about his wares either.
Doesn't know an old ink eraser from a scalpel/dr's tool. LOL
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here are a couple of thread about file razors
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...ing-razor.html
and
http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...-old-file.html
I agree. As for me, it's a home made razor from a file.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
I bought it, so I'll let you know. ;)
IMHO, it could be either a homemade item made from a file or an antique surgical knife. I came across several that we're similar. Either way it's interesting to me. I also got a GR stamped Joseph Rodgers scalpel from the same vendor.
Hah! I assumed it was a scalpel too. It certainly looks like one! And I suppose, in a way it is, it's just a writer's scalpel. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
I think, the seller isn't "in a subject".:)
He got the info about a razor and sells with that.
Wostenholm eraser/desk knife.
http://www.strazors.com/uploads/gall...t_eraser_1.jpg
Manah nailed it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Voidmonster
This place is great. :rock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
Those things are as well made as any knife or razor that was produced by their respective manufacturers.
They're a neat piece of history in their own right. ;)
I nabbed it because it was yet another data point on the '(crown) GR' stamped blades. Plus I just like Rodgers blades. Honestly, that it's a writing implement is even cooler to me than it being a scalpel. I wrote a story a while back that required me to do a lot of research on equipment of writing in the late 1700's. I don't remember reading about ink erasers, though I suppose it's possible that they post-date the period I was reading about. Instead it was all silver sand, standishes and the long 's'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
AND "quill knives" ;) that evolved into "pen knives". :)
Of course! AWESOME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
... and pen knives too.:)
http://manah.strazors.com/pen_knives_5.jpg
AND "corn knives" or corn razors" as pictured 2nd from the left in Manah's catalog page. :)
Didn't have anything to with writing unless you had to carry your manuscript and the corns on your feet were bothering you. :p
Thank you for this post. I have now learned something today! I saw one of these in a shop last week and they said it was for blood letting. It didn't make sense but now I know what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by manah
People are easily confused between fleams and erasers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 32t
The blade on the right of this knife is a fleam for bleeding
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...29-2009018.jpg
There is a similarity but not much. Most all fleams had the same basic shape but varied in size as to whether they were used on people or livestock. The one pictured is for livestock.
There is such an incredible wealth of knowledge here regarding straight razors and more! I just wish my pockets were this full.
The VAST assortment of wildly varied knowledge of just about everything on the planet that comes out in places like this simply amazing. I've spent pretty much my whole life gathering mostly useless tidbits of information about pretty much useless stuff. However the search for knowledge has been the driver that made me keep going much more so than the find.Quote:
Originally Posted by hloyallen
I guess it's a good thing I wasn't born rich.. :roflmao
The one picture of the spine does make it look as if it was cut from a file. I have a number of knives that are file reruns. Cutting edges are great but they seem to have difficulty going to a sharply pointed tip.
Great now every time I go to use my half round bastard I'm going to be preoccupied with wondering how it would shave :boohoo:
I am here to report that it is unequivocally made from a file.
With a 5 and a quarter inch long cutting surface, even if it holds an edge, I don't think I'll be doing a lot of shaving with it. :D
(Also, the GR stamped ink eraser is George V, not George IV)
This thread has convinced me I just "needed" an eraser!
I got the one that I mentioned earlier at a local shop.
The other side from the picture is.
J. RODJERS
&SONS
6NORTHFOLKST
SHEFFIELD
No Royalty, Georges, etc. Any Idea of the vintage? It is far from perfect and I want to try to use it. How are they honed? Like a wedge?
Thanks, Tim
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I don't recall seeing any of those that were really "sharp" like a razor. That looks like a "desk knife" which is a combination "pen knife" and eraser. It probably had a cover for the blade end at one point in time.
As to vintage? I've no real idea, but I'm gonna make a "SWAG" (scientific wild assed guess) and say turn of the century plus or minus 20.
Thanks for the input. I agree with the desk knife term. This one has been "sharpened" with a rounded, [would oblique be the right term?] bevel. To scrape away a thin layer it would have to be sharp . If it would be sharpened like a true wedge along the whole side it would still have a much higher included angle than a razor. I have not found many pictures and the few covers have not looked original to me. One looked like a Wade and Butcher coffin. A sheath would make more sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wullie
You are covering your SWAG with that guess!:rofl2: I read somewhere they made them into the 1930's. There is no country of origin on it so that would put it into the lower end of your dates. J Rodgers & Sons were cutlers to royalty and a lot of their stuff has marks in reference to the British crown that can help estimate the date. This has none.
If I had an answer I wouldn't ask!
Thanks, Tim
You can get burned sometimes by reading the tang stamps that have no country on them. A lot of times stuff was not made for export and thus wasn't marked accordingly. Never made sense to me to have two different sets of stamps but I have seen German pocketknives that are known to be 1920's that did not have Germany on the tangs.
Your thinking on the date is probably right on.
Just wondering if you have any information or pictures from the book/article viewed here of a simple "Quill knife" that i could use as a reference to get some made for a project i'm engaged in. also any information you may know about "how to cut the perfect quill pen" would be interesting to read if you have any that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by manah
Regards John
I used to make quill pens just for fun.
Now I've got cats and they don't mix well.
