Hi everybody,
Could any of you help me date this razor?
Thanks!
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Hi everybody,
Could any of you help me date this razor?
Thanks!
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From the looks of the razor i would say 1820 to 1835 my estimate!
Sheffiels directory shows J. Bingham listed as a razor makers 1837.
Thanks Martin!
Is there any chance you have a link to the Sheffield directory?
I believed the J stands for James.
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Thanks a lot!
I'll take her out on a date just send her my way;)
Nice razor. I am glad to be part of this amazingly helpful community (even if most of my contributions are wise cracks).
Thanks for sharing.
hahahaha, I was sure a line like this will come, but didn't know how to reformulate the question, english is not my language
:)
What is your language?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristian
James Bingham was born in Nether Hallam, Sheffield, in 1803 and was making razors by the 1820s. He was located at New Church Street between 1830 - 1840. His makers mark was 'Congruent'. He stopped making razors around 1845 and went to work for George Wostenholm as overseer of the razor-grinders. In 1851 he lived with his wife Euphemia at 97 Broom Spring Lane and gave his profession as 'Manager of Razor Manufactory'. In 1861 he lived at 130 Broom Spring Lane and gave his occupation as Manager - Razor Trade. In 1871 he had moved house again - but still in the same road, this time to No. 180. He gave his profession as 'Razor Manager' - he was 68 yrs old by now. He died at the age of 73 in 1876 and Wostenholm acquired his makers mark.
So, any razor ascribed to James Bingham would fall into a narrow band - 1820 - 1845 and as your razor looks like an early example, probably before the 'Congruent' mark was granted, it is probably nearer 1820.
The six months patent granted to Bingham and Boden lasted for a few years, but the partnership between them and the other partner in the enterprise - May - was ultimately dissolved:
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Regards,
Neil
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Originally Posted by Neil Miller
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I'm amazed by the info you guys have!
Thanks!
Martin, my first language is romanian. Now I live in Spain, so that would my my second language :)
Spain! cool any Filarmonica,Palmera,Santiago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristian
I just started, 2-3 weeks ago...
No Filarmonica yet. They get a lot of love here and is difficult to get one. Or at least, one at a good price.There are guys whom find them in old shops, but not very often :)
I have a Iberia Bassat, they are well regarded too.
A GD and a TI, a really nice one: Oakwing G blade in blonde horn scales.
And, of course, there will be the Bingham, as soon as it wil get here.
Regarding the J. Bingham: what about the grind? do you think it was regrinded sometime during his life, or this is the original grind? I was thinking in that era they made razors less grounded.
You would be surprised, Cristan - it looks original to me - some of Bingham's razors had Congruent Hollow Ground on them, and had crazy, delightful shapes with deep finger notches, like this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristian
If it not original somebody did a fantastic job regrinding that razor!
you are shameless, Martin! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
Great thread and a beautiful razor.
Well i live in New york state and i do have quite a few Ny state razors! so Cristian live in Spain i was purely assuming that more then likely he owns Spanish razors, im sure you have a couple of Sheffield razors! Perhaps i am marked by a lack of shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
I'm just a joker. I would never have guessed that English was not your main language. Your questions spot on, I am just a wise guy.
You are correct - I do! The pics of razors I post with red backgrounds are all ones I have or have owned at one time.
I trade a lot with a good friend who lives in Sweden - you would expect that mainly Swedish razors are around on the Swedish market, but there are a great number of old Sheffield razors. Loads of really old Bengalls, and later ones with a Swedish Luxury shop's logo on the tangs, loads of old Sheffield 7-Day sets (including Osborn's Mushet award set made from Robert Mushet's Special Steel), and many, many others. Seems like they really had a liking for good Sheffield razors back then!
Regards,
Neil
Martin, I not sure yet if I like spanish razors. My experience is very limited, you will laugh when I'll tell you about it. Most of the (famous) spanish razors are full holow ground, as you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
I shaved with the Iberia Bassat 13 (there are people here saying is very similar to a Filarmonica size 13), and it was ok, but I liked the feeling of the GD more.
GD was "honed" by me with the welsh hones (my first honing and first shave with a straight, after 2 shavette shaves). IB was NOS, not shave ready and touched also by me on the same hones.
The blade of GD, being more rigid, made me feel more secure. Those are the first impressions, based on almost zero experience. Maybe I liked the rigid blade more because it seemed to struggle less with the stubbles. Maybe if the razors were honed properly the sensation would be different... I don't know yet, I started to rehone them and now I am stuck at setting the bevel on the GD, and won't go to the finer stones until it won't shave arm hair without effort. Only then to the welsh hones, and when I'll be happy with the result, the spanish razor will be the next in line, after it the TI and the "old" Bingham. Until then, I'm back to the shavette :)
Don't worry mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by unit
As I told you, same line crossed my mind when I put the thread title. Was thinking to change it, but "Anyone can help me date this razor" sounded worst to me, hahahaha.
:)
The razor you posted is just gorgeous! If mine will be half as beautiful after IŽll clean it, then I'll be really happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
Speaking of this matter, I'm thorn between polishing him and just cleaning and sharpening. I think maintaing his patina will add to the character, what do you guys think?
Until then, here is a picture with the Oakwing with the blonde horn scales.
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By saying GD im assuming you mean Gold Dollar, perhaps not the best choice of razor to learn to hone. Seems like you would benefit to having somebody hone a couple of razors for you then you can easilly maintain them on Welsh stones. And also when honing you can compare with an edge that your familiar with! Just a suggestion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristian
Yes, it is the gold dollar 66, the ugliest of their family :) Bought it for learning, first experience with it was good, I was able to do a WTG and XTG pass but struggled at the ATG.
I was thinking about having the razors honed profesionally. Took the Iberia to a razor shop... waiting time was about 4 weeks, they had to take the razor to somebody else... didn't liket the idea and went back home.
And most of the people I met on forums use the pastes too much, in my opinion. I want to feel the razor's edge coming from the stones and leather, not after all the abrasive pastes. I don't say I won't use abrasive pastes. Maybe after I'll learn to hone and I'll need to fine tune a edge, but first I want to learn to use the stones.
Sending abroad... could be an option, but spanish post became famous for losing the packets or late deliveries, Maybe it won't happen anything but my stress will be too much.
So, I have to learn and I enjoy doing it. I compare the edge to the one I have on the shavette with Personna blades. I liked the edge of the GD more, it was smoother but not sharp enough.
I'm glad someone here got that razor, Cristian - I so wanted it.
Use it in good health my friend.
If you bring it to Australia, I'll hone it for you.......:deal:
Thanks mate!
My wife bought it for my 40 aniversary :)
:chapeau
I'd keep her then.....:beer1:
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...you do mean the razor? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Havachat45
I Have a Bingham Razor too but its marked John Bingham Silver Steel, has anyone an info if there are any Relations between James & John Bingham or general infos about John Bingham?
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Found some information on John Bingham on this thread post # 684 http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ml#post1676872Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockabillyhelge
