Hype is the worst enemy to our SR community. Jnat honing

Everyone knows that certain blades are just amazing like the Filarmonicas, the Bartmann and Le Grelot. But there are so many other razors that i have traded that shave as well for a fraction of the cost.
First, vintage razors are best and I think that we are all in agreement. Has anyone ever used a Gortz- probably not. I simply could not believe how well it shaved. Recently used a T Hessen Bruch 6/8 that blew my socks off!

I firmly believe that jnats are the best final finishers. The evidence is in the slurry. I can finish with my Belgian yellow after no more slurry is given off, then I use any of my jnats with a small amount of slurry and the mixture turns instantly black. Coticules are great but if there is empirical evidence that a jnat keeps cutting then something has not been finished. Then I use my TM linen to debur,strop and I always TEST SHAVE to make certain. i know the experts will say that they know exactly when a blade is shave ready but unless it's tested there is no real proof of how well it shaves

What razors have you used that really impressed that no one has heard of?

I HAVE 37 straights. 2 modern and 35 vintage. They all shave the same to me. I guess i have a couple favoorites. One being a modern 6/8 ti and a jr torrey near wedge. I always get a bbs whether its 8/8 4/8 extra hollow or full wedge. I have heard many raves about different blades brushes soaps and creams. I find they dont make a difference. I also have tried blades finished on naniwas, coticules jnats and film. I find the film edge beats them all. Not looking to argue. Just my opinion.

Used to be a member here, TheTopher, who was quite a honer and lived near enough to me to show me the ropes re; honing. He loved "scary sharp" edges and bought a natural coticule from Howard, an 8x3. After much experimentation he told me he didn't like it because it couldn't get edges "scary sharp" like his Shapton 16k, and he sold it to me. I found it to provide what I considered a great shaving edge.

Gary Haywood, a member in UK who is a honing aficionado, and a pro barber, likes the coticule edge better than any. My favorite is the Escher but he finds them "too crisp." IME the Escher edge is a bit more so than the coticule, but less so than the 12k, 16k synthetics. Happens to be just perfect for me.

Say all this to say, I've never tried the lapping film but I'm betting it would be too much of a good thing for me. Based on what I've found to be the most comfortable compromise between scary sharp and sharp and smooth for my particular face. YMMV. :beer2:

We are all different. The best way is whatever works for you. I just dont like to see aome new guys spensing 3 grand on hones blades etc thinking the next hone blade etc is the one that will do it all. I think any hones made for razors can put on a superb edge. And the technique part carries most of the weight as long as the razor is sharp and smooth enough.

I got this Wagner I was very impressed with. Without looking I would have to say it was a 1/2 hollow 5/8 and it shaved real smooth after I honed it up some. Of course now that I have it and it is so rare the price just went up :<0) .

Are we talking razors or rocks or both ?? I'm lost already.

I get your point, but let the hurried guys who will not educate themselves dump that 3 grand.
Because those items will come back to us in the classified section, at a discounted price. :D

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

I get your point, but let the hurried guys who will not educate themselves dump that 3 grand.
Because those items will come back to us in the classified section, at a discounted price. :D

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A fool and his money !!!

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Originally Posted by dgtirl1971

Everyone knows that certain blades are just amazing like the Filarmonicas, the Bartmann and Le Grelot. But there are so many other razors that i have traded that shave as well for a fraction of the cost.
First, vintage razors are best and I think that we are all in agreement. Has anyone ever used a Gortz- probably not. I simply could not believe how well it shaved. Recently used a T Hessen Bruch 6/8 that blew my socks off!

I firmly believe that jnats are the best final finishers. The evidence is in the slurry. I can finish with my Belgian yellow after no more slurry is given off, then I use any of my jnats with a small amount of slurry and the mixture turns instantly black. Coticules are great but if there is empirical evidence that a jnat keeps cutting then something has not been finished.

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are you ona mission or something?

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Then I use my TM linen to debur,

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unless you meant to burnish the edge, you just disqualified yourself here. Burr on a straight razor is an admirable achievement, and especially after a Jnat.

I think that due to slight variations in batches of steel and tempering, when you get a particularly fine razor, it might not apply to all razors of that type. You just got a good one.

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Originally Posted by bill3152

We are all different.

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I'm not!

I get some guys pay up big time to get some trusted brand hone or razor, a friend who is all new to this is considering just that.
I told him he can get any razor he thinks looks ok and I try it out for him, same with a hone, then he at least know they can get sharp and work well.

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Originally Posted by dgtirl1971

What razors have you used that really impressed that no one has heard of?

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There are quite a few. I'm not going to tell you because that will increase their prices. It is simply law of supply and demand.

Hi Guys,
Well, I guess it's all about personal openion and technique. Forty plus years in, I still learn new stuff all the time. Still fun, still interesting, and still unique! KEEP SHAVING!
Very Best, John

It really doesn't matter whether you think one razor costs more than another and maybe the cheaper one is better. The fact is that unknown treasure you got for $40 in ten years will probably still fetch the same plus inflation while the DD that costs $250 today might very well be selling for $500 or more down the road.

Now of course if all you care about is the shave then this doesn't really amount to a pile of beans but if you might like to make some money on it later on it's an important factor. Apparently many folks do think of it as an investment of sorts otherwise the prices wouldn't be what they are.

So, what does worth and value really mean? It's an individual decision.