I am an active duty Marine and I have several in 18 years I have never heard that we couldn't have one. I think someone gave him some bum scoop.
I am an active duty Marine and I have several in 18 years I have never heard that we couldn't have one. I think someone gave him some bum scoop.
For a while my wife monitored my face for nicks or cuts, said the razors were scary, but then she got hooked on collecting antique south american shawl pins (tupus). I backed her up with her hobby, and she started being more tolerant, and does not make any more sacrilegous comments about my having various straights. I got a guy at work to start using a shavette, though.
Like the other military and prior military here, I too am confused by the comment.
26+ years and counting here.
Granted, I'm new to the SR world, but have never heard of any prohibition of SRs.
Waiting to hear how this one plays out.
I had a straight taken from me during a shake down inspection in Japan when I was rotating
from the 1st Cav Div. I lost another when I re enlisted and was with the 9th ID The third razor I kept hidden so I was able to hang on to it and still have it. At the time I was told it was an army regulation, no straight razors in possession. Maybe it is different for officers.
Well, you've certainly piqued my interest on this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony A
I've not been shaving with a straight razor long enough to have gone through any PCS type 'situations'
I will refrain from speculating and do the 'right thing'...that means breaking out the ARs (Army Regulations).
Well, either me or one of the fine, fine NCOs in this organization.
ColonelG I am interested in what you find in army regs. I think the army would put straights in the same category as a switch blade. I had a personal fire arm that I had to keep in the arms room. But could sign it out any time. As for any EM to have a straight, I can't imagine being NCO charge of quarters on pay day with everyone having a straight in their footlocker. My son is a LTC I will ask him when he gets back from overseas to look it up.
Tony,
Ahh, I certainly remember when 1LT G was the Arms Room Officer with SSG Byrd as the Arms Room NCO.
We did have some Personally Owned Weapons in the cage.
As for straights being in the same category as switch-blades, I'm going to have to...measure twice and cut once.
I'll see what we can turn up.
Oh, and congratulations regarding your son achieving the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.
Here's wishing him a safe and speedy return from overseas.
Thank you Colonel. Among others I was stationed at Ft. Belvoir and Ft. Myer during my service.
Tony, and all those who might be interested,
I have completed a quick look into applicable Army Regulations and as such, the following answer is Army specific only.
The short answer is that there is no specific verbiage banning the use of straight razors for shaving. If however the blade of the straight razor is over 3 inches and is being carried on post, it will be considered a concealed weapon and may be confiscated.
Just to be clear:
Straight Razor in the bathroom on post, FINE.
Straight Razor in your pocket or boot at the Post Movie Theater, NOT FINE
Now for the details:
Army Regulation 190-11 (PHYSICAL SECURITY OF ARMS, AMMUNITION, AND EXPLOSIVES) is the applicable AR. The proponent for the regulation is The Provost Marshal General.
For the following passage, "SC" refers to the "Senior Commander."
More familiar terms are Senior Mission Commander, Installation Commander (not Garrison Commander), Ranking General Officer on Post. THE BIG GUY WITH STARS
Please read Chapter 4-5a, 4-5a(2), 4-5b, 4-5b(3)
Chapter 4-5 is titled: Privately owned weapons and ammunition
4–5. Privately owned weapons and ammunition
a. The carrying of privately owned weapons, explosives, and ammunition on Army installations is prohibited unless authorized by the SC. The SC has clear authority and responsibility to regulate privately owned weapons, explosives, and ammunition on Army installations.
(1) Signs will be posted at installation access control points stating this prohibition.
(2) The carrying of a concealed weapon on the installation is prohibited regardless of whether a state or county permit has been obtained. For the purpose of this regulation, a concealed weapon is any instrument used or designed for the purpose of inflicting grievous bodily harm that is carried on the person in such a way as to be hidden from
ordinary view. Folded knives with blades shorter than 3 inches are excluded from this definition.
b. The SC will establish procedures and publicize punitive policies that regulate privately owned weapons, explosives, and ammunition on the installation. Such policies will provide procedures for—
(1) Registration of firearms belonging to personnel living on the installation and registration of firearms by personnel who bring a firearm onto the installation for the purpose of engaging in authorized activities such as hunting, dog training activities, or marksmanship events.
(2) Carrying of firearms by an officer, agent, or employee of a federal agency, a state, or a political subdivision
thereof while in an on-duty status, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law. Personnel who perform law enforcement duties in an off-duty status are not authorized to possess a firearm on an Army installation unless approved by the SC.
(3) Identification of prohibited weapons such as crossbows, nun-chucks, swords, and throwing stars.
I hope this helps.
Thanks for your service Tony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony A
I'm on my fourth tour here in DC.