My TI seems to take a long time to hone. This is the first time I have bend this blade and it is taking forever to get a shave ready edge on it. Does it have a harder steel? Any info will help.
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My TI seems to take a long time to hone. This is the first time I have bend this blade and it is taking forever to get a shave ready edge on it. Does it have a harder steel? Any info will help.
Need more information in order to help. What hone(s) are you using? Did you get the razor shave ready and are just trying to refresh the edge, or are you trying to set the bevel? What do you mean by "bend this blade?" The more information you can provide, the better.
In addition to the above, what is your honing experience?
I am hoping that "bend" was an errant auto-correction for "honed."
I,ll bet it was honed, only I could bend a blade honing. Tc
I got a new TI a year ago. It wasn't bad from the box but did need some attention.
Taped it, took it to a 12k and a 16k and been shaving with it ever since.
I have three TIs. Two of them were bastards to hone. The steel did seem harder. They took more effort on every stone than most others. If my usual max on my 12k was normally 10 strokes, the TI would want 25 or something exceptionally different. It was like that every step of the way. The other TI I have was bought in the last year. It honed up quite easily. The two bastards have a "Z" mark on them. I don't know if that is something different than the usual. The easy one has no such mark. Maybe that means something or maybe its completely meaningless. I don't know.
No "Z" mark on mine. It is the one with the Bison on the blade.
I have honed several new TI's for customers. Two of them had a spine that was not exactly straight on one side. Had to put an extra layer of tape at the affected area to keep it flat on the stone. They all honed up fine.
This was one of the bastards.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/shave...ml#post1498991
I haven't honed any of the newer ones, but the older TIs I've honed were pretty hard steel. Definitely harder than Solingen or Sheffield steel. They were closer to honing Swedish steel.
Bend the blade was suppose to be honed. Auto correct sucks. I bought the blade last year, when I first got it it wasn't in my mind shave ready. I went and had it honed by it still pulled. I have only honed five blades with success👍🏻. I'm pretty new.
I start with a 1k, 4K,8k then finish with 25 on my linen, 50 on the leather. Then my coticule with running water. I haven't had money for any other stones.
Does TI stand for tire iron ? What is a TI and is it hard to spell ? :thinking:
I hone lot's of Ti's and they have some of the hardest steel and always take longer to set the bevel, and some of those bigger Ti's which are quarter hollow can if you don't double tape the spine develop very uneven bevels while honing.
The Letters are the Steel Series number and some of the newer ones have the C-135 designation for the steel
TI vary just like every other brand out there,, some of the older ones are quite soft, some are actually made with Sheffield Steel
The newer ones do tend toward a harder steel and Temper/HT, that is more abrasion resistant..
They hone really easily with the Synthetic hones that are designed specifically for the modern steels.
The Naniwa lines seem to cut them very well and leave little striations,, Finishing with Naturals is hit and miss with these steels
T.I Carbon Song c135 steel is really tough but does give an amazing edge.
I have 2, the older type and one C135 with beautiful spine work. (pic below)
My brother has about 4 . I do all his honing so I'm used to them.
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That's a really nice blade job15!
Thiers issard recently started using a different steel type then they used to. It's considerably harder steel. They do seem to hold their edges longer than my other blades, but my shapton stones don't seem to have any trouble cutting fairly easy. I have an older TI that is much softer. Ultrasound was telling me that his thiers issard was a difficult hone as well. I'll tell you tho, both of my theirs are on the top off my favorite list. They shave awesome and are, imo, some of the most beautiful blades around.
Thatīs a nice TI Spartacus with spine work "fleur" http://www.smiliesuche.de/smileys/zw...ilies-0022.gif
My experience with the two Thiers Issard C-135 blades I own confirm that they are a bit harder than your typical Dovo or Sheffield. I have the Spartacus with worked spine as well as a plain AOS T.I. both of them exhibit some difficulty getting the bevel right. When I first attempted to hone any of these razors I found a tendency to not complete the bevel as it takes awhile and you have to pay attention to make sure its really set. If you don't complete the bevel on the 1k you will have a hard time on the higher grit stones as it will take seemingly forever. Focus on your 1k stone check often refer to your favorite bevel set indicator and move on to the polishing stages after that you should be fine. Don't leave the 1k until you have that bevel sorted out or you will be frustrated. :gl:
Personally I think they are great for leaning to hone with.
1.A lot of them are skew whiff so you will learn rolling X's n so on.
2.They take extra honing time = more time practicing.
3.You can apply pressure and you wont really mess up the bevel.
I did most my learning over a couple of years with mainly Hart steel . Appling pressure my bevels went all over the place.
The only negatives concerning these T.I blades IMO is that the pinning is a joke, the wedges are quite pathetic :shrug: and some of them are really out of shape.
Most of the TI's I have honed are of the harder steel. Yes, you can use a little pressure...but if you are flexing the steel you are using too much pressure! I actually have a TI (SRP razor) that needs a bevel set or at least down a few stones to get it to shave like I know it can.
The only TI that I have ever honed that wouldn't take a great edge was one that was damaged by a buffer I assume on restoration as it wouldn't take a bevel set.
At all interested for info,the T.I Carbon Song C135 steel has a Hardness between 63-64 HRC (Rockwell).Itīs not easy to hone it and it takes patience.
Does anyone know the properties of the C-135 alloy? Is it proprietary (which I doubt highly?)
I know the C135 is a carbonsteel with 1.35% carbon and the old TI are XC100 Carbonteel with 1% carbon and not so hard.
Usually a harder steel and warped.