Close, comfortable shave------I never would have gotten that.

DE ---- figured that one out a bit after asking.

On neck I do an upstroke and then experiment still. I don't seem to get any skin irritation no matter how many passes I do.....perhaps I am not applying any pressure. Anyway, I am shooting for an angled pass (ex: lower right of neck to upper left of neck) that will be enough against the grain to result in smoothness.

I can copy you though and try neck stretching, I haven't pulled at the skin any down there with my free hand.

For getting into neck creases I just use the tip of the blade and shave about 1/2 inch at a time.