I'm glad I found this thread. It's probably too early for me to be doing ATG passes, but I do get a wonderfully comfortable and close shave with just a single WTG pass and some XTG on the cheeks and neck. I still have the "good quality leather" feel, which I like, so maybe striving for the ABSOLUTE BBS shave is not for me (at least for right now). The bottom line is that it beats the alternative (cartridges or DE's).