Felt Pad/Lakeside Razor

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07-31-2016, 08:31 AM
engine46

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Felt Pad/Lakeside Razor

Here's a razor I picked up not long ago. It says Lakeside which was a trademark used by Montgomery Wards & were made in Chicago IL. On the other side of the tang it says Felt Pad Razor Works out of St. Louis, MO. I have another Felt pad Razor but it does not say anything about Lakeside on it. I was wondering if they had a connection but con't find one as of yet. Another interesting observation I made on it was the wedge & my other one is like it but I never noticed it. The thicker part of the wedge is at the top of the razor or scales.

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07-31-2016, 12:12 PM
outback

Very interesting. I've made wedges like that before, just not as pronounced, and accidentally. Will it stand up on the scales, or keep falling over?
And what's with the two small pins, does it have a liner.?
07-31-2016, 12:24 PM
xiaotuzi

That's a cool looking razor, really different seeing that wedge shape. And yeah, what's with the two small pins?
07-31-2016, 01:41 PM
MikeT

Nice! Gotta love a beveled spine. That's a good looking razor, Lakeside made some great razors.
I've done a wedge like that, not as pronounced. At the time it seemed to be necessary. Perhaps they thought with the third pin and thus lack of movement/flex of the scales due to the third pin?
07-31-2016, 02:04 PM
Leatherstockiings

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I hope Steve doesn't mind me answering the question about the pins.
There are felt pads lining the scales which were impregnated with an oil meant to keep the ege corrosion free. The pads are secured by the pivot and wedge pins plus the two smaller ones in the middle.

I'll look at the wedge on my Felt Pad razor and see if the top is thicker.

Correction. The felt pads do not extend to the pivot. My razor also has a wedge that is thicker on top. My hypothesis is the felt pads require a little more clearance for the blade entering the scales.

Wedge in my Felt Pad
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Pads lining scales
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Pads from top
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07-31-2016, 02:43 PM
MikeT

That is very cool! I've never seen one like that. Perhaps we will see some restores and customs come out with some felt linings..
07-31-2016, 02:52 PM
outback

That was my inclination on the pins and probable wedge shape. But having proof..!! thank you.
Very good idea..till water gets trapped .
07-31-2016, 04:09 PM
sharptonn

Here is a description of the patent. Spelling, etc is sketchy:

RAZOR HANDLE.

APPLICATION FILED sPT.2.19o4.
Patented April 25, 1905.
PATENT OFFICE.
ALBERT W. SLEVIN, OF MILVVAUKEE, WISCONSIN.
RAZOF-'HANDLE.
SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 788,437, dated April 25, 1905.
Application filed September 2, 1904.. Serial No. 223,114.
To r/,ZZ 7071,07, it' may crmcrn:
Be it known that I, ALBERT W. SLEVIN, of Milwaukee, in the county of Milwaukee, and in the State of VVisconsin, have invented a certain new and useful Improvement in Razor- I-Iandles; and I do hereby declare that the following is a full, clear, and eXact description thereof, reference being had to the accompanying drawings, in which- Figure l is a side elevation of arazor embodying by invention. Fig. 2 is a longitudinal sectional view, and Figs. 3 and 4 are respcctively transverse sectional views of the same on the lines 3 3 and 4 4 of Fig. 1.
The object of my invention has been to provide a razor-handle in which the blade shall be prevented from losing its sharpness by imperceptible rusting, which usually occurs, whereby much of the usual sharpening of the blade shall be rendered unnecessary, and in which the blade shall be rendered antiseptic; and to such ends my invention consists in the razor-handle hereinafter specified.
In carrying my invention into practice I provide a handle consisting of side pieces A, between which is pivoted a blade B, which may be of any desired construction. In each side A of the handle a recess a is formed, the recess forming a sharp shoulder (0/ near the upper edge of the handle side. The recesses are formed along the portions of the handle sides A where the blade of the razor will be when the razor is closed. A pad of felt or other absorbent material C is placed in each recess a, 'the ends of the pads nearest the pivot of the blade being preferablyseparated by a washer D, a rivet E passing through the handle sides, pads, and the Washer, and thus securing these parts in place. At the opposite ends of the handle the recesses are preferably reduced in size. and the pads are secured in said reduced portions by a rivet passing through the handle sides and pads. A cap' F of ordinary construction is secured on this end of the handle. The felt pads are preferably saturated with any rust-preventing antiseptic substance, as an antiseptic oil, and the pads are so shaped as to fit closely against the sides of the blade When the razor is closed.
I have found that razors are not ordinarily dulled by use on the face so much as by an imperceptible rusting which occurs within a short time after a razor has been apparently Wiped dry. This rusting dulls the razor. requiring its resharpening and causing it to cut in a rough uncomfortable manner when it is next used. By the use of an antiseptic as well as a rustingpreventive substance I not only keep the razor sharp, but render it antiseptic. It will thus be seen that my improvement greatly reduces the inconvenience of using a razor.
Having thus described my invention, what I claim is- 1. In a razor, a handle provided. with absorbent surfaces with which the blade is adapted to contact when the razor is closed.
2. In a razor, the combination of a handle and absorbent pads secured upon the opposing surfaces of the recess in said handle.
3. In a razor, the combination with a handle whose sides are provided with recesses, of absorbent pads secured to the opposing surfaces of said handle sides.
4. In a razor,'the combination of a handle having sides that are provided with recesses in their opposing surfaces, and feltpads secured in said recesses, said pads' being kept separate by a Washer interposed therebetween, and a rivet passing through said handle sides, pads and washer.
In testimony that I claim the foregoing I have hereunto set my hand.
ALBERT VV. SLEVIN.
lVitnesses:
GEO. K. DEAN, CHAs. M. THEssIN.
07-31-2016, 04:12 PM
BobH

Wonder if he is related to Lucky Number Slevin?

Bob
07-31-2016, 04:14 PM
sharptonn

I dunno, but it was discovered in the American Knife Co thread that he made other things of felt as well.
We reckoned he had a pile of felt around! :D
07-31-2016, 09:16 PM
MikeT

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

Here is a description of the patent. Spelling, etc is sketchy:

RAZOR HANDLE.

APPLICATION FILED sPT.2.19o4.
Patented April 25, 1905.
PATENT OFFICE.
ALBERT W. SLEVIN, OF MILVVAUKEE, WISCONSIN.
RAZOF-'HANDLE.
SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 788,437, dated April 25, 1905.
Application filed September 2, 1904.. Serial No. 223,114.
To r/,ZZ 7071,07, it' may crmcrn:
[FONT=Arial]Be it known that I, ALBERT W. SLEVIN, of Milwaukee, in the county of Milwaukee, and in the State of VVisconsin, have invented a certain
... snip ...
ALBERT VV. SLEVIN.
lVitnesses:
GEO. K. DEAN, CHAs. M. THEssIN.

Tom did you forget the rules?...
***Anything over so many words... including the level of confusing rhetoric, sentence structure, industry jargon, linguistic acrobatics, lengthy wording and abstract principles... in such cases the bringer of such information is to also supply "Beer & Popcorn".***
What part of beer and popcorn is unclear? :p
Hehehe ;)
07-31-2016, 09:27 PM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by MikeT

Tom did you forget the rules?...
***Anything over so many words... including the level of confusing rhetoric, sentence structure, industry jargon, linguistic acrobatics, lengthy wording and abstract principles... in such cases the bringer of such information is to also supply "Beer & Popcorn".***
What part of beer and popcorn is unclear? :p
Hehehe ;)

You may be right, MikeT! A picture COULD be worth a thousand words here! :D

https://patentimages.storage.googlea...US788437-0.png
07-31-2016, 09:34 PM
engine46

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Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings

I hope Steve doesn't mind me answering the question about the pins.
There are felt pads lining the scales which were impregnated with an oil meant to keep the ege corrosion free. The pads are secured by the pivot and wedge pins plus the two smaller ones in the middle.

I'll look at the wedge on my Felt Pad razor and see if the top is thicker.

Correction. The felt pads do not extend to the pivot. My razor also has a wedge that is thicker on top. My hypothesis is the felt pads require a little more clearance for the blade entering the scales.

Wedge in my Felt Pad
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Pads lining scales
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Pads from top
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No problem for answering before me. That's what we're all here for, to help one another out. I was a little pre-occupied but you answered it correctly plus I also believe the wedge is thicker on top to accommodate for the felt pads so Leatherstockiings & I are on the right track along with anyone else who knows about these. Like he said, the extra pins are to hold the felt pads to the inside of the scales & they were lubricated like he said. Another story I heard about that was they put antiseptic in the liners which was probably like a lubricant also. Here's a pic of my nicer looking one which says Antiseptic on the blade:

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And to answer your question Mike, this is my other one * it will stand on its own but the one in the first pic won't. They have beveled scales, so if they aren't just right, it will not stand on it's own. I think these are cool razors & I see them from time to time but they will have different scales on them because they won't have the extra pins that hold the felt pads. If any of you are looking to own one, remember that! I saw this one & it had the extra pins & the price was right so I snagged it.
Had to come back & fix my pic. It didn't crop right so no, I wasn't trying to show off 3 aluminum Rubberset brushes no #, #3 & #4. ;)
07-31-2016, 10:04 PM
engine46

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

You may be right, MikeT! A picture COULD be worth a thousand words here! :D

https://patentimages.storage.googlea...US788437-0.png

Tom, I guess we could call that a flow chart, kinda. :rock:
07-31-2016, 10:04 PM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by engine46

Had to come back & fix my pic. It didn't crop right so no, I wasn't trying to show off 3 aluminum Rubberset brushes no #, #3 & #4. ;)

I had not noticed, Steve!

Nice Rubbersets! :D
07-31-2016, 10:06 PM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by engine46

Tom, I guess we could call that a flow chart, kinda. :rock:

HAR! Yeah, but you have to get MikeT to explain what all the numbers and letters denote! :)
07-31-2016, 10:08 PM
Leatherstockiings

Well, this has probably been asked before, but does anyone know what antispeptic rust inhibitor Slevin put on the felt?
07-31-2016, 10:09 PM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings

Well, this has probably been asked before, but does anyone know what antispeptic rust inhibitor Slevin put on the felt?

Slevin only knows! ;)
07-31-2016, 10:09 PM
engine46

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

I had not noticed, Steve!

Nice Rubbersets! :D

I cropped the pic right & edited the post. Now all you can see are just the bottoms barely. Damn computers.......
07-31-2016, 10:11 PM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by engine46

I cropped the pic right & edited the post. Now all you can see are just the bottoms barely. Damn computers.......

Yeah, but we have good imaginations, Steve! :rofl2:
08-01-2016, 12:16 AM
MikeT

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

HAR! Yeah, but you have to get MikeT to explain what all the numbers and letters denote! :)

Oh no no no Tom! I would never presume to take that from you, it is an opportunity to express yourself (as an artist) with a picture worth a thousand words, and a thousand words worth a picture with cryptic numberage!
I think we've made a breakthrough here.. my work is done.
08-01-2016, 12:59 AM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by MikeT

Oh no no no Tom! I would never presume to take that from you, it is an opportunity to express yourself (as an artist) with a picture worth a thousand words, and a thousand words worth a picture with cryptic numberage!
I think we've made a breakthrough here.. my work is done.

You must be kidding, MikeT! I haven't read all that! :rolleyes:
08-01-2016, 08:16 PM
dinnermint

The vertical lines with 3---3 and 4---4 denote the location of the cross-sections located in Fig. 3 and 4. Capitolized letters are denoting physical items and lower cased letters are probably referencing fabricated features of an item or unseen components (like the lube/antiseptic or the points inwhich they were applied).