Thank you all . Took The MK7 to the stone . Killed the edge first, gave it a try on the stone with water without any succes . No auto slurry ... Created slurry with another La Dressante but the cutting was very slow , too slow , so took it on my La Grosse Jaune which is cutting like hell . As soon as it shaved armhair I switched over to my La Veinette with slurry (dilucot) - then I finished on the La Dressante au Bleu under running water. Very glasslike , very similar to my La Dressante Upper layer . A nice HHT 3 direct from the stone , 30 laps on firehose , 30 on canvas , and 60 on leather I obtained a HHT 4. This is my first Hellestrand and I am astonished about the result : the shave was crisp , no hair was left after the first pass WTG , but did a three pass anyway. Finished with an alcohol based AS (Montblanc Legend) - Little to no sting ... This my first and only 5/8 " . I never thought a small 5/8' performs this well. Don't know how come ... Is it the Swedish steel ? Is it the stone ? Did I have a superb day when honing ? I will hone the Herder 77 in the very same way , so I will be able to judge.Will keep informed . Have a fine and save w-e y'all.