3 new razors! a few pictures

found these three in a junk shop in york yesterday and managed to get them for £7 which i didnt think was bad, here are some pictures if i can manage to get them on.
If anyone has any info about them or could tell me what dates they might be etc then i'd be very grateful.

this is the first, crown and sword razor extra hollow grind, made in germany, and it then has ERN 1166 on it aswel, i think it is also with plastic scales

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/...0d2e51fbef.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5245/...76d00043b1.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/...aef2f1bd00.jpg

this one is in pretty bad shape, a few chips to the blade. with King's crown razor extra hollow grind etched on the blade which is made in solingen. chips may be from where they hit the scales on closing, scales would need replacing.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5046/...1791deff26.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/...f3e13b2796.jpg

this one is perhaps my favourite, just from the shape of the blade. there is no etching on the blade but it does say W.J. Crownshaw, Birkenhead. the scales look like horn or something similar but i'm no expert.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5122/...4cbf7ea086.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/...02eb18d2e1.jpg

non of these are shave ready and i think all need proper attention and not just a hone but hopefully over time i'll get them all up to scratch. if anyone knows anything about these then please let me know, cheers guys.

This thread will be of some interest to you for the Ern / Crown and Sword. Look for the postings by Manah.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...they-fake.html

great, ive been able to place the crown and sword, with the sword and crown logo which according to that post was used from 1896, still trying to find details on the others on the interweb

i had a look at the third razor pictured here and have done a bit of searching for the name w.j. crownshaw in the birkenhead area. i only found 1 match for him, it was in a census in 1851, his father was a cutler and he was 14. does this sound too early for this razor to have been done by him? if it is by him the i would place it probably between 1860-1890?


this one is being sent off later this month to have the blade restored, should turn out well i think.