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This is my last win on eBay but i have searched through SRP and Google although i cant find anything about this awesome razor!
It gives a beautiful shave (tested today), as you would expect for a German made razor.
it's 6/8 and and has the following stamps.
"37
Beste qualitat
F.Klein
Silber-Stahl Solingen"
On the other side it has.
"Redis Tered"
On the razor itself in a steel imprint it has.
"A.G
Extra
"
Attachment 75478
If anyone has one or has heard of them let me know pleeease :D
Brighty,
'Not familiar w/ the mark, but I also haven't encountered a soligen from the '20s (I'm guessing that would be the time of manufacture) that wasn't excellent. If extra means extra hollow, you should have an outrageous shaver on your hands. Of the 7 extra hollows I've had or honed, only 2 were without some warp or wave. If its not too pronounced, it should still be a fabulous shaver. If it has no wave, it should be outstanding. Maybe let us know how she shaves.
Thanks pinklather
It gave a very smooth shave, The blade is straight. I have touched it on my 16k shapton and it its 100% flat, unlike some of my other razors lol
I didn't know the old German razors had such a bad reputation! I must have gotten lucky with this one!
Is "Silber-Stahl" or "Silver Steel" Stainless steel?
Edit: I do have an old unbranded German full hollow that is slightly warped and that was a pain to hone but it still came up good.
That would be this razor.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...rah-scales.jpg
Brighty83,
IIRC the 'original' 'Silver steel' formulated by Mr Faraday in the 1820s did contain silver; however, today, 'Silver Steel' is high carbon tool steel (no silver).
In the UK, silver steel is made to 'BS-1407' : Silver Steel - Genuine BS1407 Tool Steel - About
Have fun !
Best regards
Russ
For fun I tried plonking "Redis Tered" into translate.google.com to see what I'd get. When I set it to Latin it translated to "do you return MOTH", which I'm pretty sure is wrong haha. Then I tried German and it said "Registered redis", so maybe it's some kind of trademark claim or something. I just thought I'd share because of the funny latin translation. Maybe the maker was just really scared of moths or something.
I actually tried the same thing before posting it on here, yeah I'm guessing its a registration or copy right thing maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertH
I don't think he was a razor maker. He owned a hairdressing salon in Berlin in 1913 and invented hair dyes and treatments, including Kleinol in 1924. A company (mainly concerned with soaps) called Klein Ol was formed. His company was taken over by Elida Gibbs Ltd in 1935. Elida gibbs Ltd was taken over by Schwartzkopf in 1979 and became part of the Henkel group in 1995. He probably commissioned the razors, to be used in his salons, etc.
Not sure about the "A. G." marking - the only AG in German that I can find means a company that is owned by shareholders.
Regards,
Neil
First my congratulations to your purchase, it seems to be a fine Razor in excellent condition.
I would date it to the 1920´s. Of this specific maker I have never heard before.
But there have been so many razor makers in Solingen at that time, many of them just very smal companys.
Personally I do not think that the Friedrich Klein who owned a hairdressing salon in Berlin and who founded the Kleinol company in 1924 had anything to do with the maker of this razor.
If I read correctly the Box reads Friedrich Klein Solingen Merscheid.
This specifys the maker to the urban district Merscheid of Solingen.
The name Klein is quite commen in Germany. The phone book lists about 1000 Klein´s in Berlin and about 300 in Solingen. The first name Friedrich also is very commen and was even more around 100 years ago. Amongst other because of - Friedrich der Große / Frederick the Great, King of Prussia-.
Enjoy Your razor
Regards
Chris
"registered trade *(mark)"... more or less....
I agree that he is possibly nothing to do with the razor, but the lack of data about the maker could point to it being made for someone, not by someone - very common practice both then and now.Quote:
Originally Posted by docholiday
That also explains the use of Solingen - the main razor making centre - on the box. It would be where the razor was made. The same sort of thing appears many, many times in the UK, where Sheffield was the main razor making centre and salon owners, cutlers and harware merchants had their own names stamped on razors made in Sheffield even if they came from London, Scotland, Ireland, etc, with 'Sheffield' stamped on the tang of the razor.
British companies still do the same thing today with razors not made by them but carrying their mark, but which are made in Solingen.
Kleins salon dates back to 1911. I guess they used straight razors then.
In the absence of any factual data we will never know though - so one guess is as good as another.
Regards,
Neil
