Inability To Distinguish Hones From Honing

It seems to be a regular thing that members are incapable of distinguishing the difference between the Hones thread and the Honing thread. It seems like a simple concept, but they seem to be getting mixed up a lot more frequently lately.

I figure there are 3 ways to deal with it.

1. Fuggedaboutit

2. Combine the two back together like it used to be.

3. Have mods regularly swap the thread into the appropriate section.

I'm just throwing this out here in case anyone else's day is ruined by the absolute disorder created by this violation of trust created by those who ignore this most basic of social norms.

In case anyone thinks I am exaggerating, here are the titles of some of the 20 threads on the first page of the Hones section...

Too much pressure on finishing stone
Thumb test
Chemically/physically speaking, why does oil/glycerin make for a closer honing?
my trying to hone
Any difference when honing with soft water vs hard water?
Honing made simple
Why should I kill the edge before honing?

Hey Ron

How about explaining the difference between nouns and verbs?

Would you like me to move on to comma abuse after that?

I get what your saying about placement of threads. SRP is a big place and a lot of people have never used a forum before when they get here. It's up to all of us to find and correct these problems. Most people will delete their own posts and put them where they belong if we point out the error soon enough and ask with a certain amount of gentlemanly manors.

We could also appoint someone who sees this as a major problem to take the bull by the horns and solve it :w :<0)

I suggest solution #2 in the original post. Who needs a whole sub-forum for hones as distinct from honing?

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Originally Posted by gcbryan

I suggest solution #2 in the original post. Who needs a whole sub-forum for hones as distinct from honing?

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That seems like a sensible thing to do as the two seem to go hand in glove.

Bob

Jimmy and I try and move the really obvious ones

To be honest between the Holidays and the other new stuff with the site I have been a little busy

Just went through and moved the 10 most obvious

I vote to keep the forums as they are. It is a clear & major distinction.
I believe that Jimmy & Glen will take care of the misplaced posts when they are 1. made aware of them and 2. when time permits.

Just my 2 cents :)

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Originally Posted by Utopian

It seems to be a regular thing that members are incapable of distinguishing the difference between the Hones thread and the Honing thread. It seems like a simple concept, but they seem to be getting mixed up a lot more frequently lately.

I figure there are 3 ways to deal with it.

1. Fuggedaboutit

2. Combine the two back together like it used to be.

3. Have mods regularly swap the thread into the appropriate section.

I'm just throwing this out here in case anyone else's day is ruined by the absolute disorder created by this violation of trust created by those who ignore this most basic of social norms.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

Would you like me to move onto comma abuse after that?

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Originally Posted by rolodave

Hey Ron

How about explaining the difference between nouns and verbs?

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A verb is always moving; a noun just sits there and stares at you. :beer2:

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Originally Posted by Addison

I Was Like What Does This Guy Have His Panties All In A Knot For,,, I Usually Dont Reply To A Guy With That Serious Of A Face In His Avatar ( New Word I Learned Today)!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I Always Look At Knew Post Not The Forum........... But Hey I Learned A New Disorder Today A D C === Absolute Disorder Created!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I Know You Have Better Things To Do Than Read My Hideous Comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But You Got There Attention They Are On It Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ty

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It was very small knot. I just wanted to point out a very small concern of mine and thought I'd pass it on. If no one was interested in issue, that would have been fine.

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

A verb is always moving; a noun just sits there and stares at you. :beer2:

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Obviously I'm a noun.

:popcorn:

This topic will be tossed around & we will see what happens. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

This topic will be tossed around & we will see what happens. :shrug:

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I hope no hones are hurt in the process.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

Im part of this mix up. Hey, im lucky if i can spell at times. Nouns pronouns? Is that english? :)
Most the time my typos are not typos. Its spelling issues. But ive lived with them this long so...

Hey Any Buddy Ask Bruno!!!!!!!!:brunoisright

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Originally Posted by 32t

I hope no hones are hurt in the process.

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Originally Posted by Addison

Hey Any Buddy Ask Bruno!!!!!!!!:brunoisright

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Yeah. His English is gooder than most of ours.

All kidding aside, ill try to be more careful!

As a question to the mod team: would you appreciate if threads that Ron (or anyone else) feels are misplaced be reported? Or will you guys tend to notice on your own? Just wondering how we can be most helpful/least irritating.

I Comma That!!!!!!Ty

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

As a question to the mod team: would you appreciate that threads that Ron (or anyone else) feels are misplaced be reported? Or will you guys tend to notice on your own? Just wondering how we can be most helpful/least irritating.

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That is my personal goal here...to be the most helpful while least irritating. It's a constant struggle.

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

As a question to the mod team: would you appreciate if threads that Ron (or anyone else) feels are misplaced be reported? Or will you guys tend to notice on your own? Just wondering how we can be most helpful/least irritating.

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Honestly a pm about this to Jimmy and I would have solved this quickly and expediently

A "Report" causes ALL mods to react, and that is not always a desirable action for things like this..

ie: if the OP had been a PM it would have received the exact same result... Myself or Jimmy doing a quick search and moving the offending posts ..

You mods do a good job here. I could go either way with regards to combining/separating. I read both sections on most every visit. Not sure why they are separated but if you guys think they should be separate, let it be.

We separated them when we realized that the "Honing Threads" were burying the informational "Hone" threads pretty fast

Then we separated out the "Advanced Honing" section so that the more esoteric stuff that did not really pertain to basic honing could be discussed hopefully without confusing the Beginners

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Honestly a pm about this to Jimmy and I would have solved this quickly and expediently

A "Report" causes ALL mods to react, and that is not always a desirable action for things like this..

ie: if the OP had been a PM it would have received the exact same result... Myself or Jimmy doing a quick search and moving the offending posts ..

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I could have done that to address specific posts. I only brought it up to address the issue in general only because it seemed to be happening more frequently lately. ANY way you guys want to deal with it is fine with me. No ill will was intended.

Posting honing questions in the hones forum and vice versa can be annoying. I would also like to say that it can be a common mistake brought on by a member not fully understanding or reading the differences between the two.

I myself posted a thread about king hones recently in the hones forum that turned into a honing thread. It's a very fine line between the two.

Why the two categories aren't merged is beyond me but it is justified, as stated earlier by Glen that those looking for hone information get drowned out by the multitude of honing related topics.

Not being merged and being so similar, only differing by a few letters, we can understand why we see honing posts in the hones forum.

The fact that such an inconsequential thing ruins your day is a bigger issue, and no a mod can't fix that with a pm.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

Posting honing questions in the hones forum and vice versa can be annoying. I would also like to say that it can be a common mistake brought on by a member not fully understanding or reading the differences between the two.

I myself posted a thread about king hones recently in the hones forum that turned into a honing thread. It's a very fine line between the two.

Why the two categories aren't merged is beyond me but it is justified, as stated earlier by Glen that those looking for hone information get drowned out by the multitude of honing related topics.

Not being merged and being so similar, only differing by a few letters, we can understand why we see honing posts in the hones forum.

The fact that such an inconsequential thing ruins your day is a bigger issue, and no a mod can't fix that with a pm.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

I'm just throwing this out here in case anyone else's day is ruined by the absolute disorder created by this violation of trust created by those who ignore this most basic of social norms.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

The fact that such an inconsequential thing ruins your day is a bigger issue, and no a mod can't fix that with a pm.

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:aargh: .

I like the way it is now with them separated, but whatever the mods/admin decide is cool. Even when the odd thread does get posted in the wrong forum it's not that big a deal. Title usually gives us an idea what it is anyway.

Same thing seems to happen in the Brushes/Brushmakers forums.
Guys do brush builds in the wrong one, it seems.
Oh well. If that is all that is wrong, we are doing great! :)

I'm with Utopian it bugs me to, seems simple to post in the right place, perhaps a change in the sub-categories description is in order.

Descriptions on all the aforementioned sub-forums seems adequate.

One just needs to read a bit and place their threads in the proper place.

Problem solved! ;)

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Originally Posted by Utopian

Obviously I'm a noun.

:popcorn:

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I could have sworn you're a contraction!

Splitting into hones and honing might not have been a perfect solution, but there are times when there is an unusual amount of buzz around certain honing methods or around certain hones, and this separation helps keep the other subject from getting lost in new posts in the respective forums. I agree with Randy that there's a clear enough difference, but it did look cleaner and simpler when they were combined.