Just seen on FB, about The Shave Nook forum now closed. I hope It'll be not in here.
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Just seen on FB, about The Shave Nook forum now closed. I hope It'll be not in here.
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I'm not sure what ADA compliant means but it's very sad that the website has been targeted.
ADA, is Americans with Disabilities Act.
Someone's civil rights may have been stepped on, somehow. :shrug:
I looked on the Facebook page and it appears some shyster is targeting shave forums and filing lawsuits against them.
The Shave Nook: Facebook
This past Wednesday (4/12/23) I was served with a civil lawsuit seeking $25,000 in damages due to my website supposedly not being ADA Compliant. The current version of my website was launched merely six months ago and the developers emphasized that it would meet all ADA requirements so my spidey senses started tingling immediately.
I'm fortunate to have a private investigator as a good friend as well as a few lawyer friends. In digging into this, we discovered that the plaintiff is a serial litigator who has 188 ADA lawsuits. It seemed odd that he was filing all of these lawsuits Pro-se (without a lawyer) so we dug a little deeper. The plaintiff is tied to a dis-barred lawyer (he embezzled client funds) who is acting as the puppet master. This dis-barred lawyer has a handful of disabled clients that he uses to file all of these lawsuits. The lawsuits are cookie cutter lawsuits and all are aimed at websites and not physical locations. They seek $25,000 in damages with a settlement of $4,000. For this client alone (and there are several other clients) the total settlement amount for the 188 cases would be $752,000.
What's perhaps even more interesting is this particular plaintiff seems especially interested in shaving websites, barbershop websites and cigar shop websites that are based in Los Angeles County. The day after I was served, the Shaver Shop down the street from me was also served. Although they do have a physical store, the suit filed against them was also for their website and not the physical store.
I have hired a specialty law firm and intend to fight this rather than settle. Someone needs to draw a line in the sand.
Hopefully, this group becomes totally disabled, and sued for their actions against others, rights.
This is a attack for monetary purposes, only.
How is anyone's rights, violated in a forum.
This is a known scam going on for years and it is being done by people all over the country. Settle or hire a lawyer and pay 10 times that amount in legal fees to defend yourself.
They go around and look for issues like no ramp for a wheelchair or handicap parking. I'm not sure what a web site issue is maybe they want the site in braille or something.
Just proof that sleazeballs are coming out of the woodwork everywhere. Just hearing about this makes my blood boil.
Good luck Glen…Take ‘‘em down brother!
Pete <:-}
As sad as it is we have allowed it to happen to us in the US. Although we may not actively be participants the fact that we have not actively forced tort reform makes us all vulnerable. McDonald's was in large part responsible because they have had a policy of settle in any suit regardless of the merit. This has made it clear to sheisters that entities with deep pockets are easy targets.
From what I see I agree with Paul. This is a US phenomenon made possible by your tort laws which make it trivial to sue anyone for anything, for a ridiculous amount of money. What also doesn't help is that it's legal for lawyers to sue in return for a slice of the cake.
Anyway I think this site is not really at risk since Ivan is the de-facto owner and he is in Europe, so serving him or taking action isn't realistic. Iirc even the domain is registered with a non-US registrar. Same for my place.
Shaving sites with US based owners probably are at risk, simply because of the cookie cutter nature of the lawsuit.
Yup. It's called LawfareQuote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
It should be that if the lawyer doesn't win they have to pay the defendants' legal fees out of their own pocket.
Isn't this where a counter suit comes in?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
In my opinion the trouble with laws is they are made by lawyers. :hmmm:
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Originally Posted by 32t
Not only that but judges are lawyers also.
And so are or senators and our representatives etc .............
My spelling sucks but it is a group that works together.
Well, we know what Shakespeare said about lawyers...
Whole thing is silly. NOT that there has not been psychotic razor guys before.
Still....The idea that when someone shouts foul, it would shut down a legit forum.
Esp as a shaving forum is usually always friendly and accommodating. Purpose/nature of things.
A bigger picture may be forthcoming?
The problem with Tort Reform is it hits everyone. If you limit awards then when you are involved in something and you life is forever altered and you are a true victim via negligence and you can only get chicken feed you might feel differently.
Yeah, that's what all the lawyers keep saying. I'm not saying there's no truth to it but what are we supposed to do? Besides, tort reform means more than limiting settlement amounts. It also means courts reviewing what cases they will hear and throwing out the bogus. Judges should be doing this but, again, judges are lawyers.
The nitty gritty is that, like everything else, it's always one bad kid who gets everyone thrown out of the pool. As much as I hate giving power to the government what might put a stop to it is making ALL lawyers work for the court system instead of allowing them to be privately hired. Then you theoretically could not buy better justice.
Damages should be actual damages though. The way things are in the US, people regard it as winning the jackpot.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Additionally, making it so that you always have to pay the lawyer a) discourages lawyers from just throwing around lawsuits to see if anything sticks b) discourages people from suing unless they have an actual case they can win.
Take this example about some guy 'representing' disabled people and making ADA claims. 25K per person is a number based on jack shit because a) those people were not actually users of the website, and b) they didn't have actual damages.
Is a forum a business site?
The problem here is not just with lawyers. It is also with insurance companies. They act as though they are enemies each blaming the other for the problem but in reality they are both making a killing off of us. Insurance companies raise everyone's rates through the roof because of lawsuits and they have the government forcing us to have it. Then the lawyers tell us they have plenty of OUR money so let's get back what's yours. And people are so stupid they let their greed drag them right into the middle of it.
There's an accident attorney here that advertises on TV. We call him beady eyes because he looks like the guy from Dick Tracey. It's a running joke that all the people on his commercials look like there's nothing wrong with them. "I was hit by a careless driver. The insurance company wanted to give me a small settlement but Dan made them pay me $10,000,000! Thanks Dan!" What they DON'T say is that good ol' Dan got half of that money. Meanwhile the insurance company raises rates again and that 10 mil is like a drop in the bucket compared to their total earnings. If you ask me they should BOTH be outlawed.
Or maybe what they should do is when a lawsuit is filed they should take the insurance company CEO and the lawyer and put them in a cage and have them fight to the death and the winner has to pay the settlement.