In case you missed: reputation system is a go :)

You will notice a green bar underneath your profile picture.
This is as a result of Dave turning on the reputation system. You can add to someone's reputation by clicking the reputation button (looks like weighing scales)underneath that bar in the specific post for which you want to add to someone's reputation.

This partly overlaps with the thank you system. I am not 100% sure where you'd use the reputation button instead of the thanks you button.
Possibly on posts where someone shows off his skills or knowledge.

What do you guys think of the rep system, and how it compares to the thank you system?

I think it is a good addition. Suggestions:Thanks can uesd when interesting assistance or feed back is provided and reputation may be used for transactions such as follow thru and quality or when assistance with positive results is pprovided. This may porvide some defference between the two.

Also, just a heads up, the reputation function may cause issues similar to the vendors rating buysers on EBay and the sellers disbuting buyer ratings. SPR may want to research other sites that use similar system to head off any future problems. Reputation rating provided may be a matter of opinion and some may feel slandered by the results they get.

On second thought maybe resutstion be used only for transactions and mabey add a 'thanls+' for replies providing assistance with positive results. The three (thnaks, thanks+ and reputation) would measure three different values.

I don't quite understand though - okay, a reputation system, but how do you not only add to someone's reputation, but take away from it? If there's no minus, then the system doesn't really do anything, does it? (I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I'm literally asking because I'm confused).

Also, what is the rating scale (I see that some "are on a distinguished path" while others are "a jewel in the rough" while others, like yourself Bruno, have a "spectacular aura about you.") What are the thresholds? When do you get extra bars? Is there a correlation between thanks and bars? Number of posts and bars? Is it strictly those that add to your reputation that increases it?

A primer would be very helpful.

Mark

I agree with MiltonMan. bruno, can you publish the entire grading scale so we can get a top down view of what's going on here?

I like to form my opinion by reading peoples post both current and past, then come to my own conclusions. The reputation system seems like it would be biased toward prolific and popular people. I like to read odd ball and out of the box ideas. I think it would be bad to have good post dismissed or weighted differently because of a popularity ratings system.

A little time spent reading will allow a person to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Charlie

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Originally Posted by spazola

I like to form my opinion by reading peoples post both current and past, then come to my own conclusions. The reputation system seems like it would be biased toward prolific and popular people. I like to read odd ball and out of the box ideas. I think it would be bad to have good post dismissed or weighted differently because of a popularity ratings system.

A little time spent reading will allow a person to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Charlie

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Agreed. I'm a little leery of yet another rating system. I'd like to make my own judgment about the value of a person's post. Besides, even someone with a high rep can still be "wrong" on occasion yet his post will have higher credence. Fortunately such a post will likely generate disagreeing responses, and so the discussion will go forward. That's the way it should work. Most of what I have learned in this forum is from the give and take discussions. Of course I hold higher regard for some people's opinions over others but that's because I made my OWN opinions about whose opinion I value more.

I was perceiving the reputation tool as an aid to newbies and that those of us around for a bit of time can take care of ourselves as we have done up to now. As to the value of someone's post to a thread, reputation should not put a value on those. We have all seen the posts with something like "Who should I buy from" and we have also seen a lot of "I bought this xxx. Did I do good?". To expect the mass population to do their homework is probably asking too much. A quick refreence for newbies on who has a history in what ever definition 'reputation' finally takes on would be a good addition to the site. I doubt it would add any major value to me as I am usually a loner and take responsibility for my own actions, so I study up first.

The suggestion and discussion behind the reputation button began on this thread:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/rules...-1-button.html

For those who are interested in what has been said already. :)

I have seen these on the gun forums I belonged to, if it is similar at all, the "Reputation Rating" is based on more than just that "Rep" button...

It depends on several factors, Threads usually play a huge part in it, not only the amount that you post, but how many people read them, and respond to them...

Friend lists sometimes are tied to your rep also, how many people are on your friend lists....

The thanks button is probably tied into the overall rating also...

Basically most of these rep systems are a matrix function of your overall contribution to the forum....

I don't like it, but I don't know why.

How can I disable it?

thanks :)

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Basically most of these rep systems are a matrix function of your overall contribution to the forum....

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That's true! Thank you, "Jewel in the Rough"
May I call you Jewel? lol
that's too funny:roflmao

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

I don't like it, but I don't know why.

How can I disable it?

thanks :)


That's true! Thank you, "Jewel in the Rough"
May I call you Jewel? lol
that's too funny:roflmao

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Sure mister soon to be Famous

Reminds me of the Second Young Guns movie :y "I'll make ya famous"

Can we push our own buttons? I seem to do it so well with others that I probably should try myself on myself to see how it is to walk in my own shoes.

?????... something like that...:thinking:

.....all this newfangled whizzbang electronic schtuff just dag bern near confuses me....:shrug:

...but then again, I use a straight razor to shave, and bathe regularly as opposed to Axeing it up with the newest body sprays.

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Originally Posted by iron maiden

.....all this newfangled whizzbang electronic schtuff just dag bern near confuses me....:shrug:

...but then again, I use a straight razor to shave, and bathe regularly as opposed to Axeing it up with the newest body sprays.

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You young whippersnappers and your bathing! If a sponge bath once a week was good enough for your daddy, it's good enough for you!

It's the invasion of the green chiclets!!!!

While I don't have any major, major issues with it, I would just like to point out that most people who join SRP are people who think outside the box, and are a little different to the mainstream. After all, we'd all be discussing Mach 3s or electric shavers if this were not true. We think for ourselves and we form our own opinions.

The reputation and thanks system can be seen as an enhancement and feedback system. But it can also be seen as a form of control that encourages homogenisation. None of us are stupid - we know what sort of post will illicit favourable responses to boost our reputation.

I think if we are careful with our usage of this system we can avoid turning into the straight razor Borg. But we need to be aware of it's control aspect in order to do so.

James.

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Originally Posted by Jimbo

The reputation and thanks system can be seen as an enhancement and feedback system. But it can also be seen as a form of control that encourages homogenisation. None of us are stupid - we know what sort of post will illicit favourable responses to boost our reputation.

I think if we are careful with our usage of this system we can avoid turning into the straight razor Borg. But we need to be aware of it's control aspect in order to do so.

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+1
Agreed.
In this instance, no elaboration needed.

I agree with Jimbo. No major objections, but not something I was waiting for.
I also don't see the connection with Sidneykidney's call for a +1 button.

But even so, I appreciate every effort the moderators make to improve the functionality of the forums, so cheers to you guys.

Bart.

Well, you can add and subtract reputation by using the scales, which is what dave thought was meant with the +1 -1 discussion.

Personally I am of the opinion that by participating in the community, people will soon enough find out who is who. And if people can't be bothered to spend enough time here....... I am not going to write it out, but I think you get my point :)

But regardless. It is here, and we will see how it will be used.

I pushed the reputation button on one of the members of a thread and this is what appeared written in a box: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to XXXXXX again. :thinking: Am I stupid or... I don't get it... :thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking: :hmmm: :jedi:

And I got this one. What, no bribing allowed?

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You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Well, you can add and subtract reputation by using the scales, which is what dave thought was meant with the +1 -1 discussion.

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I had the idea Sydneykidney was after a method to add more weight to an individual post in a thread. The installment of the reputation button may lend a member more credibility, but it says noting about a particular post.
You can't see if someone received extra "reputation" on a certain post, can you? (just wondering)

Nail on the head Bart. Nail on the head....

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

And I got this one. What, no bribing allowed?

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Just how much reputation have you been handing out there Lee?

You need to slow down there young fella. Remember, respect and reputation are earned, not handed out like flyers at a communist convention.

James.

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

And I got this one. What, no bribing allowed?

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I get that whenever I try to hand out rep. points. S'up wit dat?

X

I like your new status Lee. :rofl2:

Well, there go the political debate threads! ;)

Don't hand out reputation when angry!

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Originally Posted by loueedacat

Well, there go the political debate threads! ;)

Don't hand out reputation when angry!

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Perhaps, reputation can be disabled in certain places.... the conversation area springs readily to mind... and then again the thank you button in there is pretty useless as well ... rep and thank yous should maybe be reserved for razor related areas

With the uh, er, quality of individuals we have here, I dont think very many of us is going to give a hoot what someone else thinks of us as individuals, especially in the Conversation. Or is it just me?

In case its justme>>>";"

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Originally Posted by fpessanha

I pushed the reputation button on one of the members of a thread and this is what appeared written in a box: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to XXXXXX again. :thinking: Am I stupid or... I don't get it... :thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking: :hmmm: :jedi:

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I think that it means that you did add to the person's reputation but that you cannot do so again, for this person, until you have added to the reputation of others first.
Anyway, that was my interpretation.
Is this correct????

For what it's worth, I think this reputation thing idiotic. Who cares? If I were selling things, reputation would be important. If I comment on things and am correct in my assessments, but others don't like how I express myself, my reputation will likely be at toilet level at best. This has nothing to do with my right-ness, only how my observation or telling of them may be perceived.

So for this new whatchmacallit --:td

I invite all to ruin my reputation, maybe it will simply be the the step before banishment.";"

Oh, by the way, what guise will this negative reputation assume? Little red squares? Thumbs with dirty nails pointed to the nether regions?

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Originally Posted by Bruce

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Oh, by the way, what guise will this negative reputation assume? Little red squares? Thumbs with dirty nails pointed to the nether regions?

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I welcome the ability to, at a glance, assess someone's character and importance visually. Marking people with boxes is, I think, entirely appropriate for this purpose.

I for one intend to shun anyone with a poor reputation. One cannot be too careful about who one consorts with in today's world. Leper!! :p

James.

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Originally Posted by syslight

Perhaps, reputation can be disabled in certain places.... the conversation area springs readily to mind... and then again the thank you button in there is pretty useless as well ... rep and thank yous should maybe be reserved for razor related areas

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+1 that. HEY! Where's my +1 button?

X

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Originally Posted by Bart

I had the idea Sydneykidney was after a method to add more weight to an individual post in a thread. The installment of the reputation button may lend a member more credibility, but it says noting about a particular post.
You can't see if someone received extra "reputation" on a certain post, can you? (just wondering)

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Exactly- I think there is a big difference between an overall reputation that someone has and what someone says in a particular post. Seeing where someone gave a +1 on a specific thread would be helpful.

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Originally Posted by syslight

Perhaps, reputation can be disabled in certain places.... the conversation area springs readily to mind... and then again the thank you button in there is pretty useless as well ... rep and thank yous should maybe be reserved for razor related areas

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I can't agree more. Reputation points could obviously be used for the wrong reasons in the wrong sections. Personally I am undecided on the whole reputation aspect. I think it is a great idea initally, but then I think about what built someone's reputation before- people beginning to recognize your name and the quality of your posts and character. That is still the main reputation rating in my mind.

Another forum I attend to uses rep. Here's a little experience to go on.

It's really up to the rep giver to be the guide as to how to give rep. For the most part, rep is often given for humorous commentary and posts that are indirectly connected to the forum content, by friends in circular fashion. So in that case, someone who comes along and runs up their post count and has a high rep count, appears more wise than others even though it might be based on a bias.

You could consider adding another measure, like rep power, which will identify the strength or validity of the rep present. This would be another function for the moderators. They can, with their god-like prowess, add or subtract depending on other intangibles like the value of a contribution or running along saying stupid things or just posting a boatload of "me-too's".

However, giving negative rep, always means trouble and sets up feuds worst than the Hatfields and McCoys.

Personally I do a little quick math in my head and figure out the Post to Rep ratio. It's much better in my mind to have a High Rep and Low Post count than the other way round.

Some of us are more active in Chat than on the Forums. Will the Reputation System reflect our contributions (or distractions) to Chat?

I want to be infamous.

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Originally Posted by syslight

Perhaps, reputation can be disabled in certain places.... the conversation area springs readily to mind... and then again the thank you button in there is pretty useless as well ... rep and thank yous should maybe be reserved for razor related areas

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Amen. This needs to be done ASAP.

GREAT, yet another way I can get affirmation of my noob status. Huzzah!









;)

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Originally Posted by Whiggamore

I want to be infamous.

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You and GW, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!;)

It has been mentioned on the original thread, yeah. It may have been mentioned on this one as well but regardless, Old_School is right. My suggestion was intended to relate to particular posts rather than give kudos to each other because we are all so cool.

Even though we are. :D