I haven't used Williams in some time. These days, if I'm in a hurry, I usually grab the DE, and a glass dish that holds a travel sized puck of C&S 88 and face lather. I guess I'm spoiled too. I remember having no complaints when I used Williams. Of course, I didn't really know what was out there either. My puck of Williams sits in an over sized coffee cup on my bathroom counter, a staple. It's nice to know you can still walk into a Walgreens, or Wal Mart and pick up a puck.