I don't find Wholly Kaw oud subtle, but it's not an in your face oud like AOS, which I also like. Few soaps are pure oud, and most are blends. I think my favorite blend is LPL Oud-Santal, but I do like the scent of Wholly Kaw and AOS. Most of the Wholly Kaw scents are on the subtle side. I just pre-ordered Oleo Soapworks Xocolatl, a dark Mexican chocolate with cardomom ad clantro, which sounds interesting.