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    From the passion of a professional chemist for classic shaving, born A&B Cosmetics.
    Fortunately, this person has a chemical company near Perugia.
    Where it makes nutraceutical and pharmaceutical production.
    So a different level of skills.
    https://www.chemibit.it/index.php

    I was immediately fascinated.
    The apparent simplicity conceals a gem.
    In fact there is a wealth of technical details.
    Which unfortunately don’t show up in the INCI.

    These are some examples.
    I report the ingredients list and the olfactory pyramid:
    • Bois Aromatique
    • Essence
    • Mint & Flowers
    • Ribera



    But the current production is much wider.
    It consists of seven models, plus an LE produced for the Barber Era.
    All sold in combination sets, with a luxury packaging worthy of the product.


    Thanks to a circle of acquaintances, I had the pleasure of getting in touch with the owner Andrea Bianchi.
    In addition to receiving very interesting information from a technical point of view, I borrow some sets.
    https://sharprazorpalace.com/show-te...ml#post1972350

    I can’t wait to start this trip.
    Discovering an Italian excellence.
    More to come ...
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    I had to start over with this soap.
    From the basics, to focus the ABC of lathering.
    Which also happens to be the acronym for the brand.

    This Ribera is the 22.12 base of December 2022.
    This range will be coming to base 23 shortly.
    In fact, the current version is not for newbies.

    Very technical, requires understanding two basic concepts:
    • the amount of water
    • the temperature


    Thanks to the suggestions I received, I had no difficulty.
    But it still took a long time, compared to my standards.
    In fact, this base requires a lot of water.
    Also at first hard butters have to be warmed.
    So I used the sink as a Scuttle. I don’t use a bowl.


    Another detail to consider with technical products.
    Do not load into the container, and take a given amount of product.
    In my case, this being the first contact, I used two grams.
    That is an enormity ... but it was useful to work in sure excess.
    This amount in about ten minutes of assembly, took about twelve grams of water.
    All with seven successive additions, to achieve the desired density.
    That doesn’t sound like much. But it’s a lot.

    On the other hand, at the third pass according to the classical technique, I had a large amount of lather for at least two more passes.
    Lather that obviously remained dense and pearlescent until the end.
    In fact, it has an excellent structure with micro bubbles, very resistant.
    The same applies to lubrication. Both primary and secondary.
    In fact, the high amount of cocoa butter has a similar effect to waxes.

    To finish the lotion gave its fragrance touch.
    Both, even that of soap, in good continuity.
    But without being aggressive, despite their presence.
    After several hours, I still hear the background notes.

    This is the SOTD.

    https://sharprazorpalace.com/shave-d...ml#post1972424
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    Thanks for this review. You did mention not for beginners, but maybe it requires a bit too much fuss and fiddling, even for older hands? We have many wonderful soaps that are super simple to use now. (I'm lazy )

    Maybe new base becomes a bit easier to use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tathra11 View Post
    Maybe new base becomes a bit easier to use?
    I'm going to check it ...
    See you soon.
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    Same concept as yesterday.
    But more efficient tools.
    Much better result.
    Complete and durable comfort.
    And with less soap ...

    This is the SOTD.

    https://sharprazorpalace.com/shave-d...ml#post1972482
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    These days I tried the 22 base with the brushes in pork bristles:
    • SOTD 20230530 - Ribera vs Omega 10077 (22x50mm)

    • SOTD 20230531 - Ribera vs Semoge 1305 (22x55mm)

    • SOTD 20230601 - Bois Aromatique vs Semoge 1305 (22x55mm)


    Negative result.
    Between evil and the worst.
    In the sense of yield, of course.

    With the smallest loft, the result was already unsatisfactory.
    I had to recharge for the last pass. In total about 2 grams.
    With the largest one, the first I used 3 grams and today 4 grams.
    Besides the consumption, the unpleasant consequence was the SLOWNESS.

    The good thing was the fragrance explosion.
    In fact if Ribera is fresh and delicate, Boir Aromatique is bold.
    Actually, I still feel some dry notes.
    After well over 12 hours.
    Lotion excellent.
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    Default A&B Cosmetics: Essence Set

    Given previous experiences, today I wanted to try the Essence base 23 again with my favorite pig.
    So I abounded (5 grams). Valid result, three canonical passes in full.
    But with the bristle the yield is low. Too much for my taste.

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    It is definitive. Does not like bristle.
    As always, a great lather and post.
    Today a mixed brush. Small and efficient.
    Good yield. However, the three canonical passes required 3 grams and a lot of work.
    Not very well. I have the badgers left ...

    https://ischiapp.blogspot.com/2023/0...-20230603.html
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    I had a great time today.
    To speed up comparison with badger hair brushes, I used almost all of them.
    One gram of cream for each, a brush for half face (cheek / neck).
    Two brushes for each of the three canonical passes.
    With all the calm of Sunday. Especially after this video.
    [MEDIA=youtube]yj2L07KwL-c[/MEDIA]

    The test is always on the yield, and I must say that the badgers worked well.
    Especially the two Silvertips that, being thinner as fibers, have eaten little soap.
    The sweetest (H. L. Thäter 49125/1) gave the best result.
    By producing more lather faster.
    Far enough beyond for what was the purpose of the test.
    In short, a clear practical indication.

    There remain only the synthetics, which are the preferred ones.
    Both from me, and from the producer ...

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    Today I picked up the suggestion of a fellow forumer.

    Valenter@ilRasoio finds the horse better than silvertip.
    Which in his case is Boti’s bleached horsehair.
    Personally with this Vielong I get results similar to yesterday.
    But with a little more soap. Especially with a lot more time.
    A little more soap than Silvertip, the thinner of the two. (Heinrich L. Thäter 49125/1)
    In practice at the same level as the Finest, the thickest one of the lot. (Barcelona Shaving Brushes BSB2)

    By now I’m sure synthetic is the far better choice for this soap.
    I have the feeling that the porosity factor of the fibers is decisive.
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