Does diamond spray work best on pressed wool felt ?
Printable View
Does diamond spray work best on pressed wool felt ?
The "spray" IME does work best on the Felt... :)
Cool, Thanks !!
Thats what I used for a while and it worked great for me (0.5 diamond on felt)! After my honing improved I find that I don't use it as much. I still keep it around though.
That's exactly what I bought 0.25 and a 100% hard pressed felt ! I also bought a Naniwa 12,000 for refreshing ! I think I'll be ok for a while with just those for a while !
That's the exact thing is about to purchase!! Except I'm thinking 0.5. Can someone please educate me on the differences between all the sprays? Diamond vs CrOx? 1.0, 0.5, 0.25? And their different purposes? This kind of ties into my post in the Strop section. Perhaps a mod can merge the posts if appropriate?
Your face… number of laps... and condition of the edge.
With Diamond you really have to experiment to see what works best for your face and how many laps give you the results you want for the edge you are trying to improve.
Less is more.
Personally I prefer Chrome Oxide and or .50 CBN for maintence and comfort over Diamond.
I've heard that diamond spray leaves a harsher scratch pattern, and this I can believe since diamonds are harsh abrasives. Also the 0.25 and 0.5 micron is just a difference in abrasive size. 0.5 seems to be the standard but some people love 0.25 while others hate it. Just depends on you I suppose. The CrOx leaves a smoother feeling edge due to the size/shape of abrasives in the paste. I've not used CrOx or CBN so I can't compare the two, I'm going based off of what I've experienced with diamond and reading how other people like CrOx.
Diamond does leave a deeper stria, cuts faster and can feel harsh on the skin as the deep stria creates a micro saw tooth edge.
Chrome Oxide and CBN of the same grit size leave a shallower stria and less of a saw tooth / straighter edge, more comfortable on the skin.
So it depends on what you are trying to achieve with your edge. I have used diamond to refresh an edge followed by Chrome Oxide for comfort and CBN for maintenance.
Really at that level it depends on your face and the razor’s edge.
I use the .5 micron diamond spray on pressed felt for refreshing the edge every so often. I have found that a good strop is necessary (25 laps on linen and 50 on leather) afterwards or, like others have said, the shave feels very harsh - close, but not a smooth stroke.
What is CBN ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stretch10
CBN (cubic boron nitride)
CBN (cubic boron nitride)
Another wonder product :p available in sub-micron sizes
What is your favorite ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
While I'm still a novice honer, I'm starting to agree more with Lynn's statement that's something along the lines of he hasn't met a edge that can't be improved with a paste (I think that was Lynn).
I have had some very nice edges with either 12k or jnat, but using the CBN afterwards just takes it to another level. Now, that just may be a testament to my novice honing skills, not sure.
That being said, diamond, CrOx, etc are all diff flavors of doing the same thing, and I think it's another case of finding what works for you.
Honestly ???
I use the most pure CrOx I can get my hands on, then use it on a Leather strop, BUT I don't use paste to "Refresh" or to "Sharpen" I only use it for 7-10 laps depending on the CrOx micron size right after most hones to add smoothness to the edge before regular stropping...
If I wanted to use it to refresh I would get the .50 Diamond and use it on felt, I did an experiment with the .50 and the .25 diamond a few years ago with a very good outcome...
It really depends on what you are after
I have Cromox and .25 diamond, guess I'll have to get CBN and find out which one works best for me ! YMMV - LOL
I am learning to hone and maintain my own razors. In the meantime I send them all out while I practice on a couple cheapy blades. All I'm looking to do with this right now is to stretch out times in between honings, to bring back the edge as it starts to tug a bit. What would be a good combo for this? For me and my shaves, as I'm still a bit new (only been using a straight for about 8 months), I like a smooth shave. Doesn't need to be BBS. I shave the tops of my cheeks and my neck WTG/ATG and the goal is to achieve a close irritation free shave. Irritation free being the main concern.
There is stropping on paste for comfort to tune an edge for your beard and skin, refreshing to bring back a flagging edge and there is maintenance.
I look at it like maintaining your car, if you change the oil and do regular maintenance on a schedule you will prevent most future problems. If you wait till the motors knocking… changing the oil will not fix the knock.
So once you get the edge where you want it, you can maintain it with paste… indefinitely.
Diamond .50 or .25 can refresh an edge if it is not too far gone. Chrome Oxide or .50 CBN will tame an edge and make it a smooth shaver, or will maintain an edge at optimum level, .125 CBN will smooth it a bit further depending on your beard and skin.
You can strop on Chrome Oxide, Cerium and Ferrous Oxide, and or CBN, .50 or .125 daily or a regular routine of every other day, 3 or 4 days or once a week depending on what works for you.
It does take some experimentation and your shaves will improve as your stropping skill improves. The importance of stropping technique cannot be overlooked.
I strop on CBN .50 or .125 daily 20-30 laps and shave off the CBN edge.