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    Use whatever strop you like. My Kanayama cost me $178. If that is a massive over spend then I'm guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobski View Post
    I can't get my head around feather light finishing strokes on a super fine jnat, then running it on a heavy Latigo bit of leather. If heat is generated in this process as it can on the heavy bovine strops, it can't be good for the razor. Just my view.
    As one has little time invested and lesser quality to compare with, the nice sensation of Kanoyama leather is indeed welcoming. Still, It is a piece of leather. A strop.

    Nevermind any pricing considerations.
    They are tons cheaper now that the Marque has been resurrected.
    No more effective than a myriad of examples out there, IMO. In many ways, comparable to the myriad of razors to be had.
    We are surely speaking of a quality strop in comparison as we do so.

    The 'Feel' of the strop is most different in all examples,
    even in different examples from Kanoyama, FME.

    To judge the amount of draw, effectiveness, and preferred strop for a particular blade takes a very long time to discern. Then... You get into progressive stropping. Another thing entirely.

    As far as having a quality strop for all....

    If you have a good quality strop, the only thing you might benefit from an 'upgrade' is a good feeling and a prettier piece of equipment, albeit possibly a horrible piece of fabric as well?

    Since you have a good feeling and the dough is spent, so much the better.

    Something to be said for that, Eh?

    YMMV
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    A heavy draw may induce a new comer to "muscle" his way through the stroke. So, what Glen said about introducing newbs to fast draw strops makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne1963 View Post
    A heavy draw may induce a new comer to "muscle" his way through the stroke. So, what Glen said about introducing newbs to fast draw strops makes perfect sense.
    Also, It seems that one man's heavy is another's light.
    Variables such as tension and technique aside...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshaves View Post
    Is that possible that a overly heavy draw could damage the edge of the razor?
    My first strop was an Illinois 827. After thoroughly sanding it smooth it took on a nice heavy draw. But I never saw any negative effect from it and came to enjoy it. But I can see where it could, depending on variables. Skill being the first and most obvious. And if someone has a lighter grip on their blade I could also see it skipping or generally creating a bad technique as they fight the draw. I've got a grip like a vice, once I clamp down the blade isn't going anywhere.

    I'm still waiting for my SRD Buffalo strop to develop it's 'heavy' draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal View Post
    My first strop was an Illinois 827. After thoroughly sanding it smooth it took on a nice heavy draw. But I never saw any negative effect from it and came to enjoy it. But I can see where it could, depending on variables. Skill being the first and most obvious. And if someone has a lighter grip on their blade I could also see it skipping or generally creating a bad technique as they fight the draw. I've got a grip like a vice, once I clamp down the blade isn't going anywhere.

    I'm still waiting for my SRD Buffalo strop to develop it's 'heavy' draw.
    I really enjoy the heavy draw of the strop I posted the OP about it's a Classic shaving black latigo! Turns out the heavy draw was only proving that my freshly honed edges were sub-par. Since I posted this question, I now know for a fact that the strop had nothing to do with the edge of the razor looking ragged! Also if the pivot pin isn't tight on a heavy draw strop it is a Pain to strop well

    Sorry for my grammar lol "Is that possible that AN overly heavy draw etc....."
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    For anyone desperately yearning for a Kanayama strop, I highly recommend the Kanayama 3. It is the same quality surface prep and performance for a much lower price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    For anyone desperately yearning for a Kanayama strop, I highly recommend the Kanayama 3. It is the same quality surface prep and performance for a much lower price.
    3 as in 30000 ? I originally had looked for a number #3 but was told it was no longer made.
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    I've got a 10000 and it is also a very fine strop. If you're wanting a Kanayama
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    So I've followed this post as want to improve my stropping and I've been reading other posts about technique also, I still consider myself a total beginner (I've hit the 6 month mark of shaving straight) and I'm a little unsure of what you mean by "draw" and how I can recognise what is a heavy draw and what isn't and the effects it has. If anyone could help me out to further my knowledge I'd. Ugh appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance.

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