Whenever I strop a kamisori on a hanging strop, it scratches the strop. Any suggestions as to why this happens and how I can avoid it would be welcome. At the moment my only solution is to use a paddle strop, which is not nearly as fun.
Thanks!
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Whenever I strop a kamisori on a hanging strop, it scratches the strop. Any suggestions as to why this happens and how I can avoid it would be welcome. At the moment my only solution is to use a paddle strop, which is not nearly as fun.
Thanks!
Joel, you will need to knock the corners off the Kamisori at heel and toe.
They are very pointy and cause inadvertent scratches.
Not sure why that would happen, my only suggestion would to strop as gently as possible. Kamisori can also have a viscous spike that could, if not careful, scratch a strop easily.
Its got to be the pointy heal and or toe. Kill it/them carefully. The very tip doesnt mater much anyway. Unless you are getting scratches from the middle somewhere. Then Id say it wouldnt shave very comfortably.
NO NO NO don't kill the edges. That is the way they are supposed to be.
When you strop a Kamisori you just need to be VERY careful. A Kamisori is essentially a double spike and though many take those edges off a spike you don't do that or it's not really a Kamisori anymore.
Just try and keep your strop as tout as possible.
I wouldn't be overly concerned about muting the toe . Iwasaki razors come like that standard.
It's also possible that the toe has been honed to a burr or maybe has been bumped forming a a small fold. Tapping a fingernail can do it.
Muting the point by 1 or 2 strokes on the finest stone can fix it. The next honing would likely restore the tip point.
I use a Boker Loom strop to do mine to avoid this problem. It works a treat and it's exactly the right size for the smaller blade.
You are lifting/dropping the handle as you are ending your stropping stroke, it is very noticeable (Scratches) when stropping a Kamisori
Many people do it when stropping in general, but the size of the blade hides it with a longer blade
A lift will cause a tip scratch a drop will cause a heel scratch
Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I'll try again this weekend.
Last week I tried again with a hanging strop, being very careful with the tautness and angle and everything, and observing what happened. I noticed that the kamisori would scratch the strop at both the heel and toe, but only on the hollow (ura) side.
Yep, even when you are careful it happens and I hate scratching a beautiful strop when it's completely unnecessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelkerr
If I have to be that careful and slow and uber taught it sort of takes the fun out of it.
Muting it ever so slightly will not be visible to the naked eye and you can strop it like everything else.
It's possible you have a burr on the offending side or it's a fault in your stropping. Without looking at the edge under magnification it's all guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelkerr
Talking about stropping both sides of a Kamisori.
Many years ago on this site we had this long running discussion as to whether or not a Kamisori was a one sided razor and being either a right handed or a left handed razor.
Glen, Oz do you remember the conclusion to that discussion.
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Originally Posted by thebigspendur
With traditional honing (7:1) they do work best using ONLY the Backside (Hump) touching the face, however the varied ratio honing makes it easier to use it wrongsided
7:1 - 5:1 -3:1 - 1:1
I admittedly use it in two spots wrong sided, ie: Your Razor, Your Hones, Your face
Also to be sure the more shaving you do on your face Rightsided the more comfortable the shave, That is my story and I am sticking to it :p
This is still a great source of info from our Old Member JimR aka Jim Rion
https://japanshave.blogspot.com/
Ditto on what Glen said. I always used both sides as required but mostly used the hump side (technical term ) :) & I always stropped both sides. Just seems wrong not to.
Yea, that what I thought. I always used the "right" side and being left handed learning the Kamisori was a real challenge. Certain areas really require use of the other side unless you be an octopus.
I taught myself to wind fishing reels left handed as I'm right handed but that was a tad less risky than using a kamisori ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Until a King latches on and you're still learning on a cackey handed setup :gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
It's all good mate. I got a few decades practice now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tathra11
Happened to me many years ago off Dalmeny. My mates had never laughed so hard :(
Because of my hair growth pattern, it’s almost impossible to only use one side of the kamisori. I would be curious to know if any left handed kamisori were ever made….
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Originally Posted by joelkerr
Yes there are some, check out https://www.aframestokyo.com/razors.html they had some in the past
Yea, I've seen a few in the past.
You have to know being left handed in Japan was a stigma and not a good one and left handed children were forced to use their right hands for just about everything. That has changed more recently but you won't find too many left handed razors for this reason.