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Could I get some info on the TI pastes please, I only have one TI and so I would rather not invest in a seperate set up just for one razor, I have cr-ox but would get other pastes too but do they have to be TI? what grit/micron are they and I have aslo heard that a loom strop is recomended. any TI users help out here.
I am basically still anewbie, but do know the Thiers issard paste has a 10,000 grit:
Thiers-Issard Razor Sharpening Paste
Recommended by Thiers-Issard as the best way to maintain the shave-ready sharpness of your Premium Quality Thiers-Issard razor.
This half ounce of paste goes a very long way. Dab a bit on the rough leather side of your Thiers-Issard double sided strop and and work it well into the leather. Strop your razor in the usual manner until the dulled edge is re-newed.
Formulated using both Aluminum Oxide and Diamond Particles as the cutting agents which are suspended in a non-toxic paste bound together with tiny cloth fibers to prevent softening. The edge attained with routine use of this paste is comparable to that achieved with a 10,000 grit barber hone.
Hmm, if I finnish with a 12k stone and then go to cr-ox so why would a 10,000 grit paste be work better unless its the strop being a loom strop the tentsion can be adjusted so I hear, just wondering not being snarky too mandrake
That is a quote from CS's website... I would be very hesitant to put those numbers in stone....
Hmm, if I finnish with a 12k stone and then go to cr-ox so why would a 10,000 grit paste be work better??
Paste is a very personal thing, some work for you with the razor you have some don't....
As to it working better or worse than the CrOx you would have to try it out....
Myself if I want more sharp from a razor I go to the source first which is the stone... Once you get every bit of sharp from the stones then start on the pastes and adjust for effect...
Thanks GSSIXGUN I have it honed and it is very shap indeed, just not dialed in and heard about the pastes but I dont think I want to go down that road. Ive got a plan B lets see how it likes an oxyacetylene torch, just kidding. I think I have a solution, and I will post it up for any others with tricky TI's and newbies like myself
Aye some of those TI blades can be tricky, but trust me here, once you figure them out and get it dialed in Woooooo Baby they are smooth...
Typically the chromium oxide has proved to be more consistent. I have had some razors do OK with the TI white and some not. It definitely gets black pretty quick with use.
Puma used to make little paste sticks that were pretty good too, but haven't seen them in a while.
Very thin application and just a few strokes at a time are the key to the pastes. Usually 5-10 strokes, strop and test.
Lynn
alright, I hope so I will report back or just put it in the classifieds for a sale or trade,just this.. one of the best razors I have (only been shaving since july newbie I know) but anyway it is a 30 dollar Genco that is a dynamite shaver
Medic484,
I have always found the TI white paste a strange beast to apply, particularly on the TI suede paddle strops.
No matter what I do, the paste always clumps the pile of the suede together. Heating the strop and paste helps, but I could never get what I thought was a satisfactory application. The paste has a tendency to come together like crumbs from a pencil eraser when you rub it on the strop !
It might just be me being cack-handed :)
I have never had this problem with CrOx podwer or pastes.
Best regards
Russ
Russ, I have the same problem on my 4 sided paddle strop. I did take a hair dryer to it when I first applied the paste, then used the palm of my hand to even out the paste & work it in. Good stuff though.
+1, that's what I did too. B y the way, other webs insists on the 10,000 grit, from Rasurpur.de:Quote:
Originally Posted by shooter74743
Thiers Issard Sharpening Paste - 10g
After some time your razor's edge will loose some of its sharpness. Then it is time to use this special sharpening paste with aluminium and diamond particles in it.
Massage this paste thinnly into the leather of your strop (paddle or hanging strop) and strop your razor a few times. Then you strop it on the usual leather a few times and it should be back to normal.
If this procedure doesn't help anymore, your razor needs to be re-sharpened.
You can do this either by yourself by using our superb Belgian hones or you send the razor in and I will do it for you.
This sharpening paste can be used for any straight razor and polishes like an 10.000 grit Japanese waterstone.
Thanks to all for the usefull information.
I'm a newbie and want to join the club... on this matter I just bought a Geo. Wostenholm&Son Peerless, so: Does any of you has any experience with this razor and recommend a stroping paste that best suits this blade?
i have tryed several pastes i use ch.5 which is with out a shadow of dout nice paste for adding more glide. i recently used the issarde pate i applied it to my tm cotton hanging strop not leather and it goes on a piece of cake. what i do is get the razor shave ready of my coti 100 percent shave if i'm happy i will add 10 to 20 laps on issards and i have to say it makes a differance especialy on my TI's. In my opinion its exallant stuff and works very well easy to get hold of and very well priced i also follow up with five laps on cr.5 ox
They are still widely available, on ebay and internet shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
So my question is what if you don't have the TI strop? I have a Mountain Man strop with leather and cloth. Where do I put the paste?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandrake
Look here:
http://www.thiers-issard.co.uk/Sharp...onsDiamond.pdf
I guess this bit from the above link really covers it:
The best tool to use with your diamond sharpening-pastes, as we have
said, is a paddle-strop . A surface of soft wood (such as balsa) can be chosen, but we
prefer leather. In either case, the surface must be sufficiently rough or grainy to hold
the paste. With too smooth or hard a surface, the paste will simply be wiped off with
each pass of the blade--not only wasteful and expensive, but ineffective. The
smoothest leather surface (of your paddle- or hanging strop) should be reserved
for either Chromox-paste application or use of an un-pasted strop in a final, preshave
touch-up. The paste should be applied to the surface in very small amounts:
with our Bio-Diamond special push-drop dispenser applicator.
i'd just like to say i have the full range of bio paste on ti 4 sidded paddle . this stuff cuts quik and if you over do it it gives you a seriously harsh edge . i soon learned 5 laps to start with is the way to go . i tryed 10 on each grit finished with cro.ox after obtaining a real fine edge of a coticule. this is what aati recomends. my personal experiance was the edge was way to harsh and i never copied it again . i also have TI rasoir pate i have tryed it on TI paddle and my canvas hanging strop. after coticule on the paddle i did'nt rate it. After hanging strop canvas side with paste the edges have been top class for me i have now used it on at least 100 differant razors and the results are as smooth as coticule and also added sharpness in cases where your hone has'nt maxed out , i have many pastes and i like them all the diamond spray is great stuff to. if you want one paste the TI rasoir is the one i would have. i'd ignore the grit rating of 10,000 because it certanly leaves a smooth edge i would say it feels nice on your face thats what matters.