Is there a solid way of seeing when you need to paste up your strop again?
I have the Dovo Strop and on the linen side there is a paste.. not sure which one tho.. But it works quite well
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Is there a solid way of seeing when you need to paste up your strop again?
I have the Dovo Strop and on the linen side there is a paste.. not sure which one tho.. But it works quite well
Is it White ????
yes sir - well the linen side is white.. so I am guessing the paste is white as well.
Did you get it second hand, or did you forget what was on it? Could be diamond spray or paste, could be dovo's brand paste, cerium oxide, thieres issard 10k diamond paste...hard to say. As far as when to reload, I go by sound. If it sounds the way it did when it was unpasted, then I reapply a small amount; some will still be trapped in the fibers to an extent so you don't want to gob it on. The sound when most of the surface coating is gone is a smoother sound ( to me atleast) than when it's fresh, or I have put a few blades over it. You can just wipe your hand over the surface; if you aren't getting particles on your hand, then the surface coating has worn off. I think everyone judges this in their own way...just works for me ya' know.
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Originally Posted by adamf85
Dovo has a Linen White Paste Dressing that they use.. I am going to give a number of razors instead of time so you can figure it out for your self :p
I go about 1000 razors before I clean and re-dress a linen strop
Glen is that white dressing an abrasive or what? When do you use the (white) pasted strop? Post honing? Touch ups? Every shave? Feed my brain, please;)
OK here is where things get foggy :)
I have never found info that the Dovo Paste is abrasive, I have seen info that the TI version is :shrug:
I use my Linen before every shave 25 laps then 50 Laps Leather some people do not :shrug:
I can only PROVE that something is coming off the razor and I feel good that it is not imbedding in my leather strop,,,, I THINK that Linen helps the shave, you have to try and see what you find.
ps: For clarification most every Linen Strop has a dressing on there from the factory
Interesting. I didn't know that they were all dressed.
I have only used nylon webbing and leather to date. AFAIK these are not pasted.
The treatmens that seem to be on the linen I have from SRD seem more like they are used to keep the material from "fluffing up" per se. I was bored and looked around a bit, and everything I found said it was slightly abrasive and used for a treatment for linen and canvas. Maybe as a treatment after they're cleaned to help keep the material from fuzzing out and coming off???? It does seem to be very vauge...even dovos site doesn't really describe it for anything other than "very fine polishing of the edge, but main uses as a linen treatment."
I think it kind of tries to emulate the old chalk loading the linen strops of old had without all the stiffness.
Of course that's just a guess.
Good guess TBS i was just reading about DOVO white paste and its mildly abrasive and it does contain chalk!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
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I've been using SRD's chromium oxide paste and I started out with just a little bit on there... I've found myself lately just rubbing on a little more each time before using the pasted linen side of my strop. I think partly because the crox "crayon' works better when it's a on a little heavier, and partly because it just makes me feel good. Maybe with the stick you have to load the linen a bit more than with other delivery methods, but I've been pretty happy with the results lately. I do about 35 laps after honing or to touch up a razor between hones and I'm set! Curious what some others are doing and using also... I think my next strop will have felt just because I find the sound and feel of the nylon webbing a bit annoying. Like a fat kid with corduroy jeans. "zip zip zip zip!"
1000! :) Man that's like 3.8 years worth of shaving for me lol! That little tube is going to last me forever lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
I think I reapply my Dovo white paste every three months or something like that - I don't know why? There's no science behind my madness. To be honest - I think my doing such has made my strop a little messy, and makes it necessary to clean it a bit sooner. YMMV.
I still put it on though.
David are you cleaning the strop before re-dressing the strop or are you just adding more and more ?????
Uh... just adding more and more. That's a bad thing isn't it lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
"But it said so on the bottle!" :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by earcutter
Bad is relative :)
The dark marks on the linen are basically steel/rust/stuff, I would think that just adding more paste on top would push that deeper in the linen, I do not know for sure...
That was always my thought so I cleaned them first then re-dressed them,, although when I learned it I used chalk and hairspray :p
Glen --
My strop is 15 years old. I wash the linen side of my strop about once per year with laundry detergent and a brush with stiff nylon bristles, as my grandfather taught me. I've never applied any dressing of any kind to it on either side. In your opinion, is paste a useful additive for increasing the lifespan and/or effectiveness of my linen?
I get it - thanks Glen.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
I think... I think but I don't know for sure - that I have run about two fifty or so strops with it since I got this one, and yeah it's getting a bit messy. I don't know why, but lately it just seems like I am getting more "stuff" on it faster than normal. You know - it could be because I am just adding and adding.
I did the exact same, the Barber that taught me years ago showed me the Chalk and Hairspray trick after cleaning.. In his veiw he thought it was much better for the edge, I did it that way, and never had problems... Again try it and see what you find, Pastes are an acquired taste and their use is a huge variable, even the use of Linen at all is debatable...Quote:
Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus
The only thing that is a "fact" is that the linen does remove something from the edge, that part is right there plain to see, other than that it is all opinion...
It's removing the razor's mojo:)Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Thanks, Glen!
Just my two cents (as I am no pro, but able to get a very smooth and sharp edge on an undamaged razor):
I never use any paste on the canvas (though I don't have linen canvas, only the type that comes on SRD Latigo strops). The canvas itself seems to work wonders on my razors.
And my favorite sharpening "paste", which I use on a separate leather strop, is really home-made; slurry from a very fine Chinese water stone. I smooth it out with my fingers, let dry, and rub it slightly again. For me, this works better than diamond paste.
No kidding, huh? Who knew! :idea:Quote:
Originally Posted by trondsi
If you have a strop to spare, and a fine water stone, you should try it :). Hopefully it should work for others as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jpcwon
I also apply a little oil on that strop a few minutes before putting on the slurry, to avoid drying out the leather.
A number of years ago the info available said that the Dovo white paste is an abrasive and intended for the linen/cotton component. The abrasive was either chalk or talc IIRC ( they are different).
I now have a cotton strop that is pasted with talc and only use it when I feel the edge needs a touch up. My regular cotton/linen strop does not have an abrasive in it. Its primary purpose is to clean the razor of oxidation & "stuff" leftover from the last shave
It might be a good idea for anyone applying a fresh coat of abrasive paste to any type of strop to finish by "bottling" the strop to break up any large particles and to work it into the substrate.
Just my $.02 :)
One of these days I'll try talc on a linen strop. Does anyone have any experience with this?