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With the order to SRD of my two strops I also ordered a CROx "crayon" I imagined it to be waxy/greasy like cloth wheel buffing compound but to my surprise it went on very dry and dusty?? Also the Hard Pressed Felt strop was very "dusty" while testing it out? I'm considering dissolving the crayon in maybe alcohol (so the strop wont mold like water may do.) and using a spray bottle like SRD sells. I am on the right track here?
My experience with hard felt is also the same, everything I put on it, sprays or crayon has yielded dust during stropping, it works fine if you can put up with it. The Crox crayon from SRD is of very fine quality and I use it often. I prefer to use it on either cotton / linen directly or I will thin it with either a little neatsfoot oil or mineral oil and use it on leather this way. Probably will work fine on balsa as well. I get excellent stropping results with this method and no dust. Sorry I cant help you with using alcohol as a thinner but give it a shot and let us know. Hope this helps.
So the Crayon goes on dry too? I may just dissolve it.
my experience with a felt strop is that its dustiness goes away after it's broken in.
Yep my felt was dusty to say for a awhile but once broken it it is solid now the loose felt has been rubbed off
Remember that you only need a couple of crosses of crayon on your strop to be successful
I've made crayons and Chrox & Ferrox in oil but not alcohol
cant see why it wouldn't work if you were keen
but not necessary realy as the SRD crayons are very reputable and should work as is
all applications will leave residue on your blade when used for a while until they settle in properly
I had the same issue with some Dunkle’s Blue and Yellow stone honing compound, I was testing years ago. I cut off a small chunk and ground it fine, in a small dollar store mortar and pestle I keep in the shop for such things, a piece of paper on a hard surface and a hammer head would do the same.
I mixed in a few drops of neatsfoot to make a paste and applied with my finger. Let dry overnight and it worked well. You don’t need much.
I have never pasted thick felt, only used sprays, Diamond & CBN on SRD felt, though it should work fine.
I bought a sick of chrome oxide from SRD years ago and mine is more waxy and works like a crayon, maybe they changed the formula. Use Chrome Oxide sparingly, I find 3 in X’s about ½ in wide, (Finger width) give good results.
For the record the blue and yellow stropping compounds are too aggressive for razors, probably has some Aluminum Oxide in it, good for tools and knives where you want a polished bevel with a toothy edge though.
Mine were dusty when new, also.
It took some work to even get a green streak from mine. Not complaining, just wondered if it needed to be applied or "worked in" differently. Thanks everyone this place is great!
Why not try Puma Pasta? Comes as a nice wax bar.
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As mentioned above several times, I'm thinking that the pressed wool is the culprit. It sheds just from the razor being pulled across it.
With the tackiness of the crayon, it just pulls or breaks the loose fibers off or out instead of smearing onto a stable surface. It eventually stabilizes. Give it some stropping with a few razors, etc., etc.
Try the crox stick on an old tee shirt, white handkerchief, or anything with a tight cotton weave, etc. and see if it doesn't smear on that surface. And by smear, I mean pretty much just like a wax crayon. If it does then you just need to work it more on the wool. It doesn't take a lot of crox to be effective, so don't go overboard! :D
I put a few x's and then smear them across the surface with my finger.
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Regards,
Howard:)
First of all, I didn't know SRD sold crayons & why in the h*ll would you write on your strop with a crayon? :shrug:
Everybody knows that you use coloring books for crayons.
Wal Mart has Back-To-School supplies now & you can get a 24 pack of crayons for .99 cents.
You can get a spray bottle there too,,,,,:beer2:
And I do believe those .99 cent crayons are safe to eat if you have the urge...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
This is a very timely post for me, I want to buy another strop and was thinking about
SRD's "crox crayon" and one of SRD's 3" strops as a joint purchase.
Let's have more observations/experience/opinions please :D
There are tons of Chrome Oxide post already, what additional information are you looking for?
Thought this might help some of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Have fun.
Wow the guy in the video seems to know his way around a strop !! :rofl2: Thanks Lynn.
Your vid is why I pasted my entire strop like you did and then saw these guys say they make "X's" (which isn't wrong either) I was like Dang did I mess up? No, I subconsciously remembered Obi-Lynn Kenobi's teachings.... :)
Yeah using just enough may be ideal but using more never hurt either.
No either way will work, but if you put on too much, it just makes a mess and you run the risk of contaminating any other strop connected to the pasted strop. The bottom line is you can always add more, you don’t need too much. Do make sure to wipe the blade clean well, before stropping on plain leather or linen after using Chrome Oxide.
Yea that guy, Lynn has stropped a couple razors, so he knows a thing or two about it.
Thanks Lynn, just what I wanted :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
I would be careful if you are going to make a spray solution because too much water on the hard felt can make the surface uneven ,lumpy.
I found that out from adding water to try and hold some optical powder on to it.
Some spraying of Crox/Diamond spray wont hurt it though.
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Originally Posted by JOB15
I'm considering dissolving the crayon in alcohol (so the strop wont mold like water may do.) but lumps is something I hadn't considered. I thought that with a good spray pattern the spray would lay down even like when I paint car parts..
I still have to play with the crayon before I get that far, but thanks heads up!!
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Originally Posted by DadsoldBoker
When I say lumps, I don't mean clumps of spray, what I am talking about is when the compact felt gets wet parts of it become un compact and tend to puff out or up, so your felt is no longer flat but lumpy and bumpy. I had to throw mine away , I did try to iron it back flat but it didn't work.
Back then I was using super fine powders and I couldn't even set a bevel properly (fish) :hmmm:
You, may want to buy a sheet of craft felt and try it on that first. You can get a 12” sheet for about a buck, with a pva back for about 2. Cuts well to size with a paper cutter.
The craft felt works very well, by the way.
NICE ! Ill be sure to look for it!
