Kangaroo ideas

I'm a newbie and I need a strop.

I received quite a few recommendations about what beginners strop to get but, since all of the good cheaper ones had to be imported from overseas, the postage was as much as the strop. All the ones available locally were either kinda expensive or rubbish...

So I have decided to make my own. I am reasonably handy and have so far restored one blade and I have been restoring brushes for a while now, so a leather strop does not seem like too hard a task.

Since Kangaroo leather is not much harder to get here than cow leather I thought I might go in that direction, so I ordered a small hide. It feels beautiful and I have used it for stropping a couple of times just by laying it out on a table and stropping on it that way. It seems to work really well even like that, at least to my newbie eye.

The only problem is the leather is a lot thinner than cow or horse leather and I am worried it might be too stretchy to use as a conventional hanging strop. One idea was to make it double sided, either kangaroo/ cow or kangaroo/ kangaroo.

Another idea was to make a paddle strop and glue it to that. My newbie question on that idea, is there a reason why paddle strops seem to be so small? All the ones I have seen pictures of, and for sale, seem to be a lot smaller than a hanging strop, which I think might make it harder for me to use, as I'm just learning.

Is there any reason why I shouldn't make a paddle strop with a surface area as big as a hanging strop? Say 2.5" X 12" ? If it would work it would solve a lot of problems with getting and attaching fittings to hang the strop, and also the thinness of the leather wouldn't be an issue. Or would it? What do you guys think? I do have enough leather for a couple of ideas but I still don't want to waste kangaroo on something dumb that definitely wouldn't work.

All sorts of leathers have been used for strops, just try it.

No reason not to have a large bench strop. Although I think a hanging strop allows for faster stropping.

Talk to Jimbo. He is the 'roo strop expert. I have used one of his, once,and really liked the draw. The leather is very thin,but didn't seem stretchy.

<disclaimer> I am relatively new to straight razors.

'Roo hide may be thinner than bovine but is far stronger, however I think the leathers strength will have little bearing in this case. You'll fine the leather is slightly thicker and less stretchy if you take it from straight down the spine. This isn't the optimal way to use a hide however, so you might have to satisfy yourself and make the most of your hide by taking it from the sides or perhaps across the shoulders.
Avoid using the skirt area, that first inch or two from the edges inwards, the area on the inside of the leg near the hip, armpits, also will be pretty stretchy. Test for excess stretch by grabbing the hide and pulling on small sections and gauging the amount of stretch by eye.
Cut your strap about half and inch wider than you want (more or less, depending on how much stretch you've detected) and a little longer just for erring on the safe side. Give the strap a liberal dose of dubbin, Jay-el, mutten fat and soap mixture with a dash of kero, whatever you have on hand, Tie, clamp, nail down one end grab a length of dowel a hefty screwdriver or similar take a turn of leather around the rod, grab the loose end of the leather then run the rod up and down the length of the strap rapidly a dozen or so times. This will take out any excess stretch in the leather. Wipe off the excess leather dressing and your ready to use it however you like.
Hope this is of some use to you mate.

Mick

roo skins ok I got a strop made from it yes its thin but tuffest leather goin as long as ya dont use junk cuts like flank it wont strech pulls tight as a board ...chrome or bark tanned both good ..I wouldnt treat in any other way apart from some lather on it now an then to create a bita drag , and yep it'l save ya some $$$ 4sure ..goodluck with it !

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Originally Posted by Legion

... Is there any reason why I shouldn't make a paddle strop with a surface area as big as a hanging strop? Say 2.5" X 12" ? ..

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I measured the three strops hanging in my office... 16", 18" and 20" of strop space. (They are longer; that is the length of hide on which I can strop.) So, your 12" size is smaller than the typical hanging strop I believe.

But, length isn't as important as you might think. When stropping on a hanging strop, without even thinking about it, I often use only a portion of the entire length. Once you are used to flipping the razor on its spine, I don't think a 10 inch vs say an 18 inch strop makes that much difference.

So, you might as well make a strop that is more conveniently sized. But, experiment on the side of a table to find YOUR perfect size.

By the way, get a large computer mouse pad to put under the kangaroo hide when it is on the side of a table. That should give it a better action.

There is really no need to "thicken" the roo leather at all. It just takes a little getting used to when you strop, that's all. It is super strong and the one I use on a daily basis has lasted for, I don't know, nearly two years now without incident (I am bad with time). I fully expect to be stropping with it in 20 years time.

Personally I feel thickness of leather in a strop is a personal preference. And like all personal preferences, you can change them if you want to.

James.

Dear Aussies,

Please stop hoarding all the roo.

Kind regards,
Dylan - USA

While we are on the subject of kangaroo skin, I found this case today that somebody had made, presumably for a pair of glasses. It fits a hone perfectly!

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...u/P1050431.jpg

Roo-leather is *very* soft, to the point that I'd think it less effectual than beef-leather as a stropping surface. Think rabbit-skin for hide consistency.
Perhaps the tail-skin would be the more appropriate cut (definitely be the right shape), as it's far thicker from all the b'doinging.



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Originally Posted by Kees

All sorts of leathers have been used for strops, just try it.

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Not only leather, but different materials. Denim and even newspaper have been used... :beer1:

Here it is, the Kanga-Paddle. Or the Paddle-Roo?

Whatever...

It's just a little over 3" wide and has a stropping area 15" long. I treated the handle and sides with bees wax polish and I think I might put a balsa veneer on the other side for paste. Or rubber feet. Or both. That way I can lay the thing flat on the deck without the balsa getting dented.

I really like the feel of it and the size. All the other paddle strops I've seen have been on the skimpy side. This one is wide enough to strop any razor without an X if you want to.

The only problem is it raises a few eyebrows when people see it in my bathroom and don't know what it's for.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...u/P1050438.jpg

Theoretically speaking while we are on this subject, human skin *would* be the finest leather but we don't kill humans and turn them into leather :) Think of the poor Kangaroos!

Really nice work Legion.

I have always wanted a Roo hide bullwhip from Australia - finest whip makers in the world!

Now I have a second Roo hide object to want.:)

That's beautiful!!

How do you like it compared to a bovine leather strop?

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Originally Posted by Alembic

Really nice work Legion.

I have always wanted a Roo hide bullwhip from Australia - finest whip makers in the world!

Now I have a second Roo hide object to want.:)

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Yeah, I have a couple of roo stock whips from when I was working out in the bush and cowboying for tourists. But that is a story for another day.:)

I don't have a huge amount of experience with lots of different strops. I'm kind of new to the whole straight razor business.

Comparing it to my Tony Miller practice strop, which is the other one I am using at the moment. The leather is thinner and softer. It has a slight, almost velvety feel. While the TM strop feels like a good saddle, smooth and slightly waxy, the closest thing I can compare the roo to is actual human skin, as someone mentioned before. It feels a bit like the skin on the back of you hand, I guess.

It's really a nice leather. I'll have to use the strop more to truly give a proper evaluation but I have been stropping on the hide just laid on the edge of a table for a while now, and it seems to work really well.

If I was to make a hanging strop from it (which I might) I think I will bond it to a piece of cow leather on the other side. Not because I think the cow leather would do a better job of stropping (My initial feelings are the kangaroo is superior) but because it will give the roo some more support and thickness. Then I might paste oxide on the the cow? We'll see...

I had some boots made from kangaroo leather in Thailand when I was in the Army. I always thought that kangaroo leather would make a great strop. Why don't you try to make a premium product and sell them?

I like the idea of a roo leather strop

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Originally Posted by John Crowley

I had some boots made from kangaroo leather in Thailand when I was in the Army. I always thought that kangaroo leather would make a great strop. Why don't you try to make a premium product and sell them?

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Actually a couple of people have inquired. It is something I am giving serious thought to. I want to give the prototype a good workout to make sure there are no changes that should be made, so that might take a little time. Also, and the main problem at the moment, is the fact that I don't have a workshop or power tools at the moment. Making prototypes by hand is one thing, but if I was to make them commercially the labor involved in 100% hand crafting things would drive the price beyond what 99.9% of people would be prepared to pay.

Having said that, in the new year I should have these problems partially addressed. And expect to see a few more StropperRoo prototypes, possibly some for sale. And maybe some matching brushes, if I can lay my hands on a lathe. :)

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

Dear Aussies,

Please stop hoarding all the roo.

Kind regards,
Dylan - USA

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Gonna have to agree with this. Ever since I saw the ones Jimbo made it's basically been the only thing I've ever wanted.

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

Dear Aussies,

Please stop hoarding all the roo.

Kind regards,
Dylan - USA

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Not to worry.
Last I checked you cannot get roo shoes in
California USA... roo leather was illegal to
import for shoes and perhaps other purposes too.

California Lawmakers Wants to Amend Kangaroo Leather Ban | AnimalRights.Net

USA : California to import kangaroo leather goods till 2016 - General News USA

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Originally Posted by niftyshaving

Not to worry.
Last I checked you cannot get roo shoes in
California USA... roo leather was illegal to
import for shoes and perhaps other purposes too.

California Lawmakers Wants to Amend Kangaroo Leather Ban | AnimalRights.Net

USA : California to import kangaroo leather goods till 2016 - General News USA

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Well obviously any strops I would be sending to California would be made from our rare antipodean jumping pygmy cows then. :angel:

I'm pretty sure you can get it here in London as well.

You can also get kangaroo meat, which is very tasty and is pretty similar to venison. A useless factoid for you this morning..! :D

Roo is good eating, and the leather is really good. And there are millions of Red and Grey roos thanks to all the water points through out the outback provided by pastoralists for their cattle and sheep

Cheers

Heelerau:beer2:

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Originally Posted by heelerau

Roo is good eating, and the leather is really good. And there are millions of Red and Grey roos thanks to all the water points through out the outback provided by pastoralists for their cattle and sheep

Cheers

Heelerau:beer2:

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So can I order my roo hind quarter from you? I'd like one roo hindquarter and one strop to go.:D

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Originally Posted by Alembic

So can I order my roo hind quarter from you? I'd like one roo hindquarter and one strop to go.:D

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Would you like fries with that? Also, for an extra 39 cents we'll put our famous roo sauce on the side.

I have a Kangaroo strop that is my go-to strop for final laps. Yes, the leather is thin, but I love that about it and the feel is great. Razors respond very well to it.

When I get some extra money I'm going to have to just buy a hide and dive into making a few strops, especially after your response Alex. By the way, the Tally-Ho wedge you sold me is still pumping great shaves our like nobody's business and is my go-to razor.