stropping for newbies

Dear Newbies

my past experiences I ruined the edge on a new razor had to resend it to get it honed found out an easier and much more efficient way of stropping.

cut a strip of cardboard box place it on the edge of a table and practice stropping on it with correct technique and finish it with a newspaper again place it on the edge of the table to finish the stropping .

what i found is this maintains the sharpness on the edge.

the other alternative is use the leather strop and place flat on the edge of the table to practice stropping technique.

I have nicked my leather strop many times hanging it in the bathroom

hope is helps

now I am very very happy with the sharpness of the balde.

remember to sit on a chair and strop the razor along the edge of the table with 1st the card board box flat on the edge of the table and follow by same technique but with newspaper .

I can't say that I've ever tried cardboard, but I have been advised to use newspaper if you have a strop that doesn't have a cloth portion to it (which I currently don't). I definitely agree with your advice about sitting down to strop. I made all kinds of mistakes with my strop hanging. The strop got cut up and I ended up with a very dull, painful razor. Then I sat down at the edge of a table and laid out my strop and very lightly and carefully began to strop. Problem solved. Now my blade is sharp again and I don't find myself making stupid mistakes that ruin my strop's leather.

There are many ways to strop. You can use a bench strop or paddle or loom and there are all kinds of materials we have discussed. The thing is, using a hanging leather strop is the classic way to strop and considering you just want to dress the edge it's probably the most effective means which is why barbers had them hanging from their chairs instead of some other material or type of strop.

So from my point of view it probably behooves you to learn how to use one properly.

+1

Can't stop making the same mistake until you dissect the problem. Figure out why you knick so much. Watch your form, take thought out and purposeful strokes as you strop. Every type of behaviour, be it muscular, neural, whatever, follows the ABC's:

Antecedent, Behaviour, Consequence.

In this case, the Behaviour is the "form, technique", and the Consequence is the nicked strop. Find the antecedent. Stance, strop height, tension or lack thereof, twisted strop, etc.

I don't mean this to sound uppity or harsh....but I really nicked my first strop, and it took a couple PM's from a senior member to get me on the right track.

Hope this helps a bit.

Might be the first time I openly disagree.

thebigspendur makes a valid point that you owe it to yourself to learn how to strop with a loose piece of leather eventually. I agree with that much.

However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using paddle or loom strops. (You've basically made a DIY paddle strop by laying it on the table.)

I think barbers used them because of tradition (a very very valid motivation in this pursuit) but also because there's no better way to save space AND always have something handy than to "hang it" within arms reach.

Heck, I've only visited one "honemeister" he uses loom and paddle and hanging strops. Mastro Livi makes and uses loom strops.


Use what you got. Get what you want. Learn how to use it.

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Originally Posted by Soilarch

Might be the first time I openly disagree.

thebigspendur makes a valid point that you owe it to yourself to learn how to strop with a loose piece of leather eventually. I agree with that much.

However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using paddle or loom strops. (You've basically made a DIY paddle strop by laying it on the table.)

I think barbers used them because of tradition (a very very valid motivation in this pursuit) but also because there's no better way to save space AND always have something handy than to "hang it" within arms reach.

Heck, I've only visited one "honemeister" he uses loom and paddle and hanging strops. Mastro Livi makes and uses loom strops.


Use what you got. Get what you want. Learn how to use it.

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+1. Although I prefer a hanging strop for daily use I have a paddle strop for traveling and I like it very much. For some people it is their method of choice.
I agree that it is probably a good idea to learn to use a hanging strop when you are comfortable with you technique. However there is nothing wrong with using a paddle strop as your primary means of maintaining an edge.
After all, straight shaving is about what works for YOU. Not what works for everyone else. Good luck.

bapsdds,

For me, I found paddle strops much easier to use than a hanger and have used paddles exclusively for the last eighteen months or so :)

For sake of 'completeness', I have brought my hanging strop skills up to snuff this last month !

Have fun !

Best regards

Russ

One of my initial goals in this straight razor shaving enterprise was to avoid nicking a strop. So far I've been successful. I started with a paddle stropp and now have a hanger as well. Although there will be a transition to the hanger, I believe it is easier to learn to strop on a paddle and then make the transition to the hanging stropp.

I started out with and continue to use a paddle strop, mostly because my bathroom does not lend itself to a hanging strop. the easiest way I found to learn how and prefect your stropping technique is to use a razor substitute; like a plastic knife with the teeth, (if any) filed off.

The edge of the table trick is one I tell many beginners because it works so well...
Take your time and use that to learn "the Flip" it doesn't much matter what strop you are using you have to learn "the Flip"
Stropping is very easy, "the Flip" is the hard part to learn, are you getting the hint here yet :D

AFDavis / Alan has a vid on here of him stropping it is well worth it to watch, Alan has one of the smoothest stropping motions you will ever see, and he does a great job of showing you how to master "the Flip" :D

The absolute best advice to learning to strop is SLOW DOWN...

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

AFDavis / Alan has a vid on here of him stropping it is well worth it to watch, Alan has one of the smoothest stropping motions you will ever see, and he does a great job of showing you how to master "the Flip" :D

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Where are the videos on SRP? - I can't seem to find them... :thinking:

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

The edge of the table trick is one I tell many beginners because it works so well...
Take your time and use that to learn "the Flip" it doesn't much matter what strop you are using you have to learn "the Flip"
Stropping is very easy, "the Flip" is the hard part to learn, are you getting the hint here yet :D

AFDavis / Alan has a vid on here of him stropping it is well worth it to watch, Alan has one of the smoothest stropping motions you will ever see, and he does a great job of showing you how to master "the Flip" :D

The absolute best advice to learning to strop is SLOW DOWN...

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Totally agree with everything above, Slower is better than not taking the time to get the razor flat or the flip right. Here is where I found the "simulade" helpful in getting the flip technique and the razor flat without risk of damage to razor or strop.:)

It's a stcky, in red, in the stropping section.

I have seen stops on ebay that are 2" and a few that are 3". What is a minimum size for a good strop? I use (currently) my old leather belt and a latigo, and do not have any problems with the flipping. I sit down and hold my bel on the floor with my right foot and drape the belt up over my right knee and hold it somewhat taunt with my left hand as I stroke up and then do a tight figure 8 (of sorts) and back down on the leater to go back town and back up slighty to reverse and back up the leater again. I have not nicked the belt...ever. I am just unsure as to the best width. It would seem to me that at least 3" would be nice to strop with as it would mostly cover the entire blade. As is, I have to compensate and on the strokes move slightly diagonally so that I end up getting the whole razor blade touched during the stroke.

Hey Glen!
Can you provide a link to the stropping Video?