Honing Videos - gssixgun

Guys, I spent some time learning how to do videos, and how to load them onto Youtube... Yes old dogs can sometimes learn new tricks :D

There are 4 complete honing systems loaded now on my Channel "at this time" (inside joke you will understand after you watch the vids) and I will link the whole series here..
I hope this helps with a few questions on honing... :)

If there is a specific problem you are having with a specific hone or system, and I have the ability and means to do it, I will try and get a video up of the solution as I see it... :beer2:


Norton 4/8:

YouTube - gssixgun Honing on a Norton 4-8


One Stone Hone: Part 1

YouTube - gssixgun "One Stone Hone" Part 1


One Stone Hone: Part 2

YouTube - gssixgun "One Stone Hone" Part 2


Smiling Wedge 45 Degree: Part 1

YouTube - gssixgun Honing a Smiling Wedge part 1.wmv


Smiling Wedge 45 Degree: Part 2

YouTube - gssixgun Honing a Smiling Wedge part 2.wmv


Smiling Wedge 45 Degree: Part 3

YouTube - gssixgun Honing a Smiling Wedge part 3.wmv


Naniwa Progression: Part 1

YouTube - gssixgun Naniwa Honing part 1.wmv


Naniwa Progression: Part 2

YouTube - gssixgun Naniwa Honing part 2.wmv


Naniwa Progression: Part 3

YouTube - gssixgun Naniwa Honing part 3.wmv

Thanks Glen for taking the time out to do this. It's these things that make SRP invaluable.

I actually was "Having Fun" doing them after I figured it out some, the wife was having more fun laughing hysterically at me talking to myself in the "Shave Den" (bathroom) :D

Thanks, Glen. I really enjoyed these. Good stuff.

Nicely done Glen man!!!!

I knows I have seen those processes before........lmao!!!!

One of these days, I'll make some more and put them on your channel.......:)

Have fun,

Lynn

The old dog did more than just learn a new trick, very well done videos Glenn, good picture, good audio and even some captioning, impressive. Thank you for taking the time.

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Originally Posted by Lynn

Nicely done Glen man!!!!

I knows I have seen those processes before........lmao!!!!

One of these days, I'll make some more and put them on your channel.......:)

Have fun,

Lynn

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Absolutely, Ones that we really should have are a Kamisori honing that is very clear and detailed, and in English only, without the cool Japanese words that confuse everyone :D and a Shapton GS one, maybe an Escher one with slurry work???? and, and, and :) :)

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Absolutely, Ones that we really should have are a Kamisori honing that is very clear and detailed, and in English only, without the cool Japanese words that confuse everyone :D and a Shapton GS one, maybe an Escher one with slurry work???? and, and, and :) :)

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Love it!!!

I do think you need a SpongeBob pad though.............:)

Thanks Glen! I will enjoy going through these. Love the endless learning curve here.
Glad the wife had a great time as well! :)

Nice Glen, I still need to edit the one of you breadknifing. I may just send a dvd your way since you did such a good job editing. That would also allow you to post on your own channel.

That is quite the beard for a guy who is putting up videos on getting razors shave ready

Sweet! thanks, Glen!


and LOL at this point in time.

Part One:

YouTube - gssixgun shapton part 1.wmv

Part Two:

YouTube - gssixgun shapton part 2.wmv

Part Three:

YouTube - gssixgun shapton part 3.wmv

Thank you so much for making these videos. They are a great educational resource and I look forward to more.

Again, big thumbs up.

fantastic, always nice to have a solid reference material. thanks for investing the time, its really appreciated.

I can't wait to try it out! Thanks Glen! I hope this doesn't provoke me to go buy new hones :hmmm: lol.

GS, on the shapton 16 and 30k, what were you using to lap??

Thanks! Great vids!!

I didn't run and buy a hone, but I did just send for one of those kewl stone holder bracket things...

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Originally Posted by jeffegg2

GS, on the shapton 16 and 30k, what were you using to lap??

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That is a Shapton DGLP / Diamond Glass Lapping Plate it is hugely expensive and totally un-needed.. It is also rated at 325 grit just like a DMT 325 which is about $250 less :)
In fact I use the DGLP more for the Naniwas then the Shaptons because it has NO "sticktion" (my own word) issue
Two things that are with the Shaptons that really increase the price and that are really not necessary are the DGLP and the 30k those two pieces run about $600 and yes they work really well but they are not needed to get a fantastic edge for a razor...

Thank you!
Watched your Naniva serie because I have the Nanivas 1, 5 and 8K. And Chinese 12K finishing stone. Yesterday I took a junk knife and start to mess with it. Then I spent rest of the day with my stones and I did a lot of repetitions. I tried your diagonal style, and it works and felt quite well because comparing to the "normal style" where the stone is perpendicular to you but this diagonal position kept the hand closer to the body. Tried to different angles and speed. Also I tried with two hand technique with my left hand on toe. It gave more stability to the stroke but there must be careful that you do not put weight on it.

And I also tried to hone only with a left hand. It gave amazing feedback, because the knife felt so stabile on the hone. It was sliding like on the rails on the stones surface. The feeling was so different what I feel with right hand. Just like the right hand had been lost that kind of sensitivity. Hard to explain, just try it.

Thanks about the videos, those give me a lot of ideas and inspiration.

I just uploaded this to my channel
This is all in English, I really, really, tried to keep it as clear and plain as possible...
Please ask any questions that come up and I will Annotate them in there..
I also have to apologize in advance as I have a touch of a cold coming on and I am not speaking as loud as I normally do...



Part 1:

YouTube - gssixgun Kamisori part 1.wmv



Part 2:

YouTube - gssixgun Kamisori part 2



Edit: I should mention that there are actually "Left handed" Kamisori's out there, but I believe that the Stamps are also reversed on them, so the rule about "stamps up", for most of the honing still should apply.. BUT I have never even seen one in the flesh so that is just a WAG, I have only seen pics of them on a Japanese Knife website...

Glen, thanks for sharing this video. A couple of things that really stood out for me. First, this is the simplest video for learning how to hone a kamisori without getting into the complications of the Ura and Omote and which is which. Also, I really like and understand the concept of reducing your ratios from 7:1 to 5:1 to 3:1 with decreasing pressure, reducing the likelihood of screwing up the blade symmetry or asymmetry as some may like to put it.

But I do have a question for you. Have your tried using a coticule with water rather than J-nats to further refine the edge after you are done with the slurry? If yes, do you think the results are comparable to the J-nats?

Please make this video a sticky in the razor honing section, if you haven't already.

Thanks,
Sachin

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Originally Posted by sachin

Glen, thanks for sharing this video. A couple of things that really stood out for me. First, this is the simplest video for learning how to hone a kamisori without getting into the complications of the Ura and Omote and which is which. Also, I really like and understand the concept of reducing your ratios from 7:1 to 5:1 to 3:1 with decreasing pressure, reducing the likelihood of screwing up the blade symmetry or asymmetry as some may like to put it.

But I do have a question for you. Have your tried using a coticule with water rather than J-nats to further refine the edge after you are done with the slurry? If yes, do you think the results are comparable to the J-nats?

Please make this video a sticky in the razor honing section, if you haven't already.

Thanks,
Sachin

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I specifically stayed away from using the Japanese terms LOL after almost 40 years of teaching Japanese styles of Martial Arts I am well versed in what we fondly call "Dojo Japanese" and how far those meanings can really vary from spoken Japanese :D

I tried quite a few stones for final polishing on Kamisori but honestly you really have to be up there to get the right feel on these... They should be so sharp that you are literally almost gliding above the skin level when shaving... Nothing against the Coticule, I use mine a ton on Sheffield steel when they come in, and get good feedback on the edges, but I don't feel it is high enough for these razors. You might note in the vid that I actually dilute out to clear water on this, then take it up from there... I would put the Shapton 16k and 30k in the running and perhaps the Naniwa 12k I haven't tried an Escher on them or a CF -yet- :D ...
I actually like the Coticule as the building block stone, just like I used it in the video because mine doesn't cut deep into the steel and leaves a nice haze finish to lead into my Nakayama...
To each their own, but honestly if you are shaving these razors like their western counterparts then IMHO they are not near sharp enough and you are kinda missing the real experience of a Kamisori...

I figured half of you went, Huh????


Here are pics of both, Note: the bevel side of the edge is reversed on them...

No biggy as they are I guess rather rare, but they are made... I still don't know about the stamps though....

Left handed

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Right Handed

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Awesome video's! Thanks for taking the time and the dedication

Thank you very much for this introductions. Extremely helpful.

Great videos!

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

I just uploaded this to my channel
This is all in English, I really, really, tried to keep it as clear and plain as possible...
Please ask any questions that come up and I will Annotate them in there..
I also have to apologize in advance as I have a touch of a cold coming on and I am not speaking as loud as I normally do...



Edit: I should mention that there are actually "Left handed" Kamisori's out there, but I believe that the Stamps are also reversed on them, so the rule about "stamps up", for most of the honing still should apply.. BUT I have never even seen one in the flesh so that is just a WAG, I have only seen pics of them on a Japanese Knife website...

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gssixgun,
This might have been answered previously, or you might have said it on the video and I didn't hear...
I watched your kamisori honing videos yesterday and I noticed that the single stroke that you do on the stamp/Ura-side is always(?) spine-leading rather than edge-leading. Is there any particular reason?

Thanks!