Prrraolishing leaving black residue on everything...

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10-29-2015, 08:29 AM
Dafonz6987

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Prrraolishing leaving black residue on everything...

So as of late I've been using my polishing progression from casewell.. Unfortunately I didn't have enough wheels for al the entire pollisimg progression, so I only use black on a spiral sewn and white on loose cotton. Whenever I use the black compound it does leave its residue, I'll pull out a cloth and just as easy as it came it would be gone... now on the white with the loose wheel it is driving m nuts! It never use trrreo have this problem of whipping the compound I between the wedge and cracks in the razor.... Which are a huge pain to get out and the times I see it under a pin I have to unpeen and clean it out lol...

but really? What's going on? I never used to have this problem, I actually tried it at a friends as well, and it did happen over there... I Do know that I have it on the lowest RPM thats it... Maybe I need to buy a new one? I only has this one for two weeks

here IS some bone it ledtonAttachment 216988
10-29-2015, 09:15 AM
Utopian

Pretty much incomprehensible.
10-29-2015, 09:29 AM
TheFiveO

Ummmmm DaFonz....no disrespect, but are you hitting some of that legal Colorado stuff before you type?
10-29-2015, 11:24 AM
ecormier

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Originally Posted by TheFiveO

Ummmmm DaFonz....no disrespect, but are you hitting some of that legal Colorado stuff before you type?

pffft, Like he'd tell you FIVE-O!!!
10-29-2015, 11:50 AM
TheFiveO

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Originally Posted by ecormier

pffft, Like he'd tell you FIVE-O!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

It's legal there anyhow!
10-29-2015, 12:19 PM
rolodave

I would do the buffing with the razor dismantled.

You can use brake pad cleaner to remove the residue.
10-29-2015, 12:26 PM
Substance

I personally only polish with ren wax on light coloured scales for this reason.
But use greaseless compounds, autosol, Tripoli, chrox & ferrox on steel with no problems
It could just be to much compound on your wheel, just clean it off with a wheel rake if you have it or just a wire brush or edge of a file even works for me to get rid of the excess.
And see how you go
10-30-2015, 04:17 AM
Euclid440

Your wheels are over-loaded, rake and trim them with a sharp scissors, then reload. You don’t need much compound.

Read the tutorial on the Castwell’s website, lots of good info there.

What size wheel are you using?
10-30-2015, 04:26 AM
jfk742

definitely rake your wheels. Load them little and often.
10-30-2015, 04:59 AM
Hirlau

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pffft, Like he'd tell you FIVE-O!!!

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10-31-2015, 06:18 AM
Dafonz6987

That's hilarious! I wrote this after having a few drinks at the bar lmao

So basically I'm using white compound on a loose buffing wheel and it will leave black residue on the bone wedge... And a lot of the time it's hard to get out of there... I don't remember this ever happening in the past but I think that either I'm overloading the wheel or I need a new loose cotton wheel...
10-31-2015, 06:21 AM
Dafonz6987

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Originally Posted by Euclid440

Your wheels are over-loaded, rake and trim them with a sharp scissors, then reload. You don’t need much compound.

Read the tutorial on the Castwell’s website, lots of good info there.

What size wheel are you using?

I'm using 6" wheels and that's exactly what I was starting to think
10-31-2015, 06:24 AM
Dafonz6987

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Originally Posted by jfk742

definitely rake your wheels. Load them little and often.

Ah I do have the wheel rake and never use it... I was starting to wonder what the point of having them was
10-31-2015, 06:26 AM
Dafonz6987

And I promise

No more drinking and posting... It's a really dangerous thing guys!
10-31-2015, 08:07 AM
Maladroit

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Originally Posted by Dafonz6987

No more drinking and posting... It's a really dangerous thing guys!

Don't try shaving either. I'd love to say "ask me how I know" but so far I've avoided that particular pitfall:rofl2:
10-31-2015, 01:38 PM
Euclid440

A 6 in wheel is generating too much speed and heat and not letting your compound work, 3 or 4 in will work better, brake cleaner or WD40, sprayed on a paper towel will get it off, Brake Cleaner can damage some plastics and finishes.

The minute you see black, rake your wheels.
10-31-2015, 02:22 PM
pinklather

for the sake of the newbie

Post if you must after indulging, but stay away from the buffer if you've been having adult cocktail - liquid or herbal. Its really easy to underestimate the velocity at which they'll grab and hurl sharp metal at very high velocities.
10-31-2015, 07:54 PM
rolodave

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Originally Posted by pinklather

Post if you must after indulging, but stay away from the buffer if you've been having adult cocktail - liquid or herbal. Its really easy to underestimate the velocity at which they'll grab and hurl sharp metal at very high velocities.

This is probably the most important reason for unpinning a razor before using a buffer.
10-31-2015, 11:15 PM
onimaru55

It's not a mystery. The black stuff is from you buffing over the pins.
11-04-2015, 07:40 AM
Dafonz6987

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Originally Posted by pinklather

Post if you must after indulging, but stay away from the buffer if you've been having adult cocktail - liquid or herbal. Its really easy to underestimate the velocity at which they'll grab and hurl sharp metal at very high velocities.

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

It's not a mystery. The black stuff is from you buffing over the pins.

Not to worry I don't drink and buff lol that's why the black is on a spare piece of bone and not a razor lol...

Actually that's really crazy I watch the wheel turn black on when I'm buffing the pins... Are u not supposed to or something?
11-04-2015, 07:40 AM
Dafonz6987

Smaller wheels are a great idea
11-04-2015, 10:06 PM
onimaru55

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Originally Posted by Dafonz6987

Actually that's really crazy I watch the wheel turn black on when I'm buffing the pins... Are u not supposed to or something?

If you want to keep your mop clean buff around the pins.
11-05-2015, 12:22 AM
edhewitt

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Originally Posted by Euclid440

A 6 in wheel is generating too much speed and heat and not letting your compound work, 3 or 4 in will work better, brake cleaner or WD40, sprayed on a paper towel will get it off, Brake Cleaner can damage some plastics and finishes.

The minute you see black, rake your wheels.

Forgive my potential ignorance but wouldn't the speed of travel of the outside edge of a smaller wheel be greater than that of a larger wheel?

Edit: assuming the spindle RPM is the same.
11-05-2015, 12:29 AM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by edhewitt

Forgive my potential ignorance but wouldn't the speed of travel of the outside edge of a smaller wheel be greater than that of a larger wheel?

Hi, Ed! :D ...........No.

Bruce
11-05-2015, 12:39 AM
Utopian

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

Hi, Ed! :D ...........No.

Um, you can get in trouble for answering a yes or no question with a yes or no.
Trust me on this.

Ed, it's all in the RPMs.

If you have something spinning at 1800 RPMs with a 3 inch diameter, then the circumference of the wheel is 9.4 inches so in one minute a point on the outside of the wheel has traveled 9.4X1800 inches.

If the wheel is 6 inches in diameter, then the circumference of the wheel is 18.8 inches that same point on the outside of the wheel will travel 18.8x1800 inches in one minute.
11-05-2015, 12:43 AM
sharptonn

THAT! What HE said! ^

Bruce
11-05-2015, 12:50 AM
onimaru55

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

Hi, Ed! :D ...........No.

Bruce

Laconically correct :)
11-05-2015, 01:09 AM
sharptonn

Think of putting much bigger tyres on the car. You could go faster, yet take more power to get up to speed.
Hence, more speed. Eventually. Torque is done. Any load upon it slows it down.

Or, put smaller tyres on. Car jumps off good, yet is much slower on top-end at the same engine speed. Plenty torque left. Stays constant under use.

For buffing, some guts are not so much important as slowing down the wheels on a high-speed grinder motor.
Slowing them down with the smaller wheels is desirable. I am pretty certain?

Bruce
11-05-2015, 01:12 AM
edhewitt

Sorry you are quite right. Coming off of night shift mucks up my brain.
I should have remembered what a mechanic told me:
If I put bigger wheels on my car it will achieve a higher top speed but will take longer to accelerate. And the inverse for smaller wheels.
11-05-2015, 01:13 AM
edhewitt

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

Think of putting much bigger tyres on the car. You could go faster, yet take more power to get up to speed.
Hence, more speed. Eventually

Or, put smaller tyres on. Car jumps off good, yet is much slower on top-end at the same engine speed.

For buffing, some guts are not so much important as slowing down the wheels on a high-speed grinder motor.
Slowing them down with the smaller wheels is desirable. I am pretty certain?

Bruce

I think you must have posted this whilst I was typing my last post. Weird that we both chose the same comparison
11-05-2015, 01:15 AM
edhewitt

Unless you messed with gear ratios presumably? :)
11-05-2015, 01:23 AM
sharptonn

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Originally Posted by edhewitt

Unless you messed with gear ratios presumably? :)

You omitted my comments on torque, Ed! Ratios are not changed unless with wheel size!

Torque IS!

This is quite strange! ............Australia! Australia! Austalia! .....Amen!
( I feel much better!)

Bruce

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