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I am working on a Sheffield 7 day set with ivory scales, and have finished up all of the cleaning. I have seen various information about pinning ivory- some say to use washers and others say don't. What do you do, and have you seen any benefits or drawbacks to the way you do it? I am leaning towards using washers but want to get this right!
Collars will reduce the risk of damaging the ivory, but the classic look is collarless. Almost all of the ivory sheffields that I've seen have been collarless.
Most Ivory was pinned collarless. Just did a two day set, collarless. Take your time, go slow, its nerve wracking but well worth it. IMHO
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You could pin them up with teeny washers. Peening over them. Looks collarless?
Also pinning dry ivory is more risky than hydrated ivory. If you soak the ivory in light mineral oil for a few days ahead of the pinning it is suppose to make it more forgiving when you pin. I do like the look of collarless over collars, however Sharptonn did some of his tiny washers and peened over the pins in such a way that it hid the washers. It looked pretty slick. I have to admit I did try it and it looked easier in the tutorial.
there's a guy on ebay selling teflon washers...they do a realy nice job and they don't stain the ivory....i have used them on a few razors and i am satisfied.
Make sure your holes match the new pins, and are a bit larger and tapered. Some old pins were thinner than the pin stock we use today.
Harbor Freight sells a diamond burr set for a few dollars, that contains a tapered burr. Just a few twists by hand is all you need.
It gives the pin a bit of room to expand, otherwise, you will crack the scale.
You might want to practice on some old scales or popsicle sticks to get the length right, so the head mushrooms to the size you want.
I vote pin it naked
I note the absence of the standard request for lots of pics...Quote:
Originally Posted by MedicineMan
+1 to taking it sloooow and going either with no washers or with hidden ones. As for pinning naked, well, that's for each to decide on his own. :)
Tapered from the outside, I'm assuming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euclid440
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Yes, from the outside
Thanks for all the replies! I soaked the scales for several days in oil to rehydrate them, but I am still nervous:)I might just do a couple of mock ups and then decide, I am worried about the scales getting stained. Does anyone have some more picture of ivory scales with collars?
Well its not ivory, its bone.
But here's a few pic's using the little Stainless washers. Their typically used under normal collars, so they won't dig into the scales.
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If you look through this mess.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...le-halves.html
I always use a drill chuck and make one side of the pin in the chuck, which leaves only one side to peen the piń on in the scales. Also I think the dome of your hammer makes a difference too. A more flat dome is harder to get the peen without hitting the scales.
See! I tried that, but seem to do better dabbing a bit at either side.
So many ways to do things!
That's where I learned it from!
Then try it the other way!
I like to peen mine just enough to hold the collar, then assemble.
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Buried in Tom’s post,, Matching up scale halves is another very good long post on, collarless pinning of Ivory.
Worth a read, if for nothing else to remember the old guys, Bill and Neil…
Thanks for the pictures and links! I think I will use the little collar pins to help keep the hammer away from the ivory, and go ahead and use washers on the tang. I will get my mind right and hopefully give it a go tomorrow after work.
I took care of this one today after work, and I am pleased with the results! I went slowly and used a ton of baby taps:)
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Baby tap, go slow, pay attention, that's the path. It looks like you followed it right to a job well done.
Congratulations.!!!
You've made it through the Ivory challenge.
Nerve wracking..eh.
But you feel great.!
nice advise, thanks!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog