Preview: Dubl Duck Special #1- input needed

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08-10-2009, 09:44 PM
khaos

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Preview: Dubl Duck Special #1- input needed

So I started messing around with a hand held thingy like a dremel, and I have sub gold leaf stuff, this is my preliminary testing stuff. The material is lexan with a satin finish (intentional) with a LIGHT engraving that is for the purpose of gold leafing it. The gold leaf seems pretty permanent, won't hold up to maas but does with with regular friction (skin, paper towel, towl) and water pretty well. However... what do you guys think is the best way to preserve the satin finish and gold leaf? One coat of CA? A couple coats CA? Thin coat of Epoxy?
This is a scan btw not photo quality, and just a slap dash job.
08-10-2009, 09:51 PM
khaos

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Here's a "scale" I'm working on for feasibility, and practice with the engraver...

EDIT: I know its rough hewn, it hasn't even been fully cut out (If you look carefully you can see where I scratch lines with and awl) or anything, I'm just practicing working with the material.
08-10-2009, 10:00 PM
spazola

It depends on what the gold is made of. Real gold does not tarnish, mica based gold leaf products should not need to be to coated. Brass and copper based products need to be top coated with a solvent based finish. If you get the MSDS for the product you are using, you can figure out what it is made of.

Polycarbonate is pretty tough and should not need to be coated.

Charlie
08-10-2009, 10:02 PM
khaos

Yeah, but to prevent the gold leaf from coming off, and to prevent the satin finish from scratching (which would scratch clear, looking ugly...) I'm pretty sure this is not REAL gold. Too cheap. Craft store stuff.
08-10-2009, 10:48 PM
khaos

I'm probably going to stencil it if I can't get it down right. We shall see. I'm not sure if this is the way I really wanna go anyway so....
08-11-2009, 12:19 AM
joke1176

what a cool idea!

If you want it uniform, you would definitely need a stencil.

I say use a fast freehand cursive style and make the Dubl Duck your own!
08-11-2009, 01:23 AM
mrbhagwan

:hmmm::idea: If it will survive a light wiping with a soft cloth, then what about a thin coat of satin finish wipe-on poly? :shrug:
08-11-2009, 02:56 AM
khaos

If we're on the same wavelength mrbhagwan I think I know what you mean by poly. However, the finish needs to be clear, because otherwise the gold leaf will be satin too! That wouldn't be so good...
08-11-2009, 02:58 AM
khaos

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Originally Posted by joke1176

what a cool idea!

If you want it uniform, you would definitely need a stencil.

I say use a fast freehand cursive style and make the Dubl Duck your own!

On one hand if I want to sell this at some point I think I want it kinda plain and uniform. On the other hand, if I hang on to it, I will probably sign it! I have special plans for the blade, so... we'll see what happens. If it turns out really well I dunno if I could sell it, but I'm trying to keep myself to 7 razors....
08-11-2009, 03:39 AM
mrbhagwan

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Originally Posted by khaos

If we're on the same wavelength mrbhagwan I think I know what you mean by poly. However, the finish needs to be clear, because otherwise the gold leaf will be satin too! That wouldn't be so good...

Dang! :gaah: Well, the only other things I can think are probably more trouble than they're worth.

First would be to mask off the scale, then clear coat the engraving with polyurethane (wipe on). If you use a stencil to make the lettering, then you could use the stencil to make a mask.

Second would be to clear coat everything, then texture (lightly sand) everything except the engraving back to satin. That would probably wind up looking funky though.

I don't know . . . my brain hurts! :confused: There's probably an easier solution we're overlooking.
08-11-2009, 03:50 AM
khaos

The satin is more for looks (cloudiness vs. clearness) so I may just clear coat everything. The stencil idea would be good. Satin finish the scale, throw the stencil on engrave, gold leaf and clear coat all with the same mask.

What I think I will do is when all is said and done, satin finish the lexan and gold leaf it and put it in my rotation (even if I'm not gonna keep it) and use it as much as I can to see how durable the leaf is. If its solid, great, if it isn't well, I'll have to find a solution then!
08-11-2009, 03:51 AM
khaos

The blade will take a week or two as I am putting a nice finish on it, so I have time to think/practice.
08-11-2009, 11:11 AM
joke1176

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Originally Posted by khaos

On one hand if I want to sell this at some point I think I want it kinda plain and uniform. On the other hand, if I hang on to it, I will probably sign it! I have special plans for the blade, so... we'll see what happens. If it turns out really well I dunno if I could sell it, but I'm trying to keep myself to 7 razors....

Good luck with that:rofl2:
08-11-2009, 12:11 PM
turbine712

I know that there are ink's that you could use that are different color. I have seen them on fly rods with the persons name on them. Or maybe have the design printed on some clear plastic and then cut out in thin strips and placed on the scale, then finish with clear epoxy. I know I have seen gold ink.
08-11-2009, 12:54 PM
khaos

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Originally Posted by joke1176

Good luck with that:rofl2:

I've been good so far. I just got a C.S. Bresnick that I LOVE, so I'm actually having trouble figuring which of my other razors to boot. I think you may see my Jo Rodgers in the Classifieds soon. I might have to raise the limit to 14 (2 rotations) though ;)
08-12-2009, 03:03 AM
Pete_S

There was a very good tutorial a while back where one of the members showed how to embed various materials in the scales-he used turquoise in his, but he specifically mentioned that you could use precious metals. You could prolly do that, just mix the leaf with a good epoxy.

Ok here it is, it was by Icedog.

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