Anybody ever glue there wedge into place before pinning?
Luke
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Anybody ever glue there wedge into place before pinning?
Luke
Twice now I have. Once because the wedge end on this razor I did pinless with just epoxy holding it together. The other time was because the material was brittle and I was afraid of it splitting, but I think it was unnecessary.
Thanks for the question and reply. I've been wondering the same thing myself. I've been inspired by people on this forum to try a restoration. I think, when it comes time, I'm going to glue the wedge.
When glueing the wedge, I only glue one side.
I dont know if its my wedge shape or angle or positioning but Im not getting a snug fit.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/9a532e32.jpg
Couple things- pinning the wedge end first works best. Also, it doesn't look like you pinned far enough down on the wedge end to give the scales enough chance to flex over the wedge. This thread should help you: Wedge vs. Spacer - Badger & Blade
From my experience, two things cause that type of fit:
1. If the scales are too thick to flex the way they should. This defeats the purpose of using a wedge. Be careful here, a lot of materials have a very fine line between being flexible and being too fragile.
2. The hole for the wedge pin is drilled too far forward. This prevents the pin from pushing the scales against the entire wedge. They just snug up against the front of the wedge.
I kind of figured I drilled to high, does that mean this set is toast? In my defense this was my first EVER attempt at scales.
Luke
Delirium, HNSB, and Philadelph have you covered, but I will add:
Gluing a wedge rarely ends well. It usually ends with a badly centered razor, and a wonky-arsed set of scales.
I have never glued the wedge and have not seen a wedge glued in any of the razors that I removed the scales or had broken scales.
I left this thread for quite awhile so every one could answer...
Here are some things I learned by taking apart a ton of razors before I EVER started making my own scales...
First there is no RIGHT way so the choice is yours...
I have never seen a completely glued wedge in vintage razors, I have seen glued scales that had no wedge... I have even seen plastic scales (not Celluloid) that had a spacer formed on one side of the scales...
They normally only glued one side on the wedge, if there was any glue at all..
Most Vintage razors had neither side glued...
WHY???
Only a guess, but I think it was to allow for flex and adjustment, seems to work that way...
Again the choice is yours, but I never glue wedges....Keep this tidbit of info in the back of yer mind "Not all tangs/razors are made straight" you might need that adjustment
Not to be contrarian but, just for a differing perspective, I do indeed glue both sides of the wedges onto the scales I make. It may be over kill, and can be a real PIA when trying to clamp the scaled for the glue to set, but that's how I do it. If the wedge is fairly steep, I will glue the wedge and pin it at the same time, otherwise my spring clamps pop off. Of course you really need three hands to get it all together without epoxying everything in the room. :eek:
However, if I'm just repining a razor and using all the original parts, I put it back together the way I found it.
I haven't got to the glue stage, but I'm going to glue the wedge in my first attempt at restoration. i've clamped it together with a closepin, held the blade in and all looks well so far.
One other thing. The wedge in the pic is much wider than even the razors spine causing the blade to fall inside the scales. Really needs to be much thinner.
I do hope you ahve the small bolts for mocking everything up before final assembly...
I certainly am no resto expert. Getting the wedge and pinning to all orchestrate so the blade sits centered is a task that takes a ton of practice.