Clear Acrylic Scales

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Well I've started them now so I'll finish, but I won't use it again!
Does anyone have any good tips for polishing acrylic?

What do you make of the shape also?
These are my first set, I plan to use them to replace some old leather scales on a 6/8 Sheffield blade.

Looking for inspiration for the wedge as well.

I kind of have some ideas floating around in my head about using polarising film at opposing angles to give some interesting patterns, possibly as a liner, or maybe only at the wedge.
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Anyway, all comments, suggestions, critique etc welcomed - it all helps me learn :)

Cheers
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sandpaper 400-2000, then micromesh up to 12k , then some sort of plastic polisher or maas/flitz/mothers
You can also buff it but you need buffing compound for plastic and slow speeds.

I'm going to have to find me a uk supplier for the micro-mesh I keep hearing about - time to hit Google me thinks!
Thanks for the advice :)

jeweller's rouge will do a pretty good job of polishing plastic, but the slow speed is a good idea, and if you can't run your equipment as slow as you would like, very light pressure is indicated. It needn't be desperately slow. In the days when Black and Decker drills had a rather good mechanical gearbox, the slow speed of about 500rpm was fine.

You can do the calculations and find that the small polishing mops sold with Dremel tools give much the same peripheral speed as a larger, slower mop. But this is not the whole story. The Dremel mop or pad spends much less time out of contact with the workpiece, and therefore loses a lot less of the heat it gains. It is difficult to do good polishing of flat plastic with one of these.

I believe, though it doesn't apply with all plastics, that acrylic can be dyed with the dyes available for fabrics. They are available in a version intended to be simmered in water, or another that can be done in a washing machine. A slightly discoloured white shirt or two to do at the same time would make it worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by Caledonian

jeweller's rouge will do a pretty good job of polishing plastic, but the slow speed is a good idea, and if you can't run your equipment as slow as you would like, very light pressure is indicated. It needn't be desperately slow. In the days when Black and Decker drills had a rather good mechanical gearbox, the slow speed of about 500rpm was fine.

You can do the calculations and find that the small polishing mops sold with Dremel tools give much the same peripheral speed as a larger, slower mop. But this is not the whole story. The Dremel mop or pad spends much less time out of contact with the workpiece, and therefore loses a lot less of the heat it gains. It is difficult to do good polishing of flat plastic with one of these.

I believe, though it doesn't apply with all plastics, that acrylic can be dyed with the dyes available for fabrics. They are available in a version intended to be simmered in water, or another that can be done in a washing machine. A slightly discoloured white shirt or two to do at the same time would make it worthwhile.

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I've used the dremmel buffing wheel on slow(ish!) with the indeterminate rouge they supply on these after 1200grit atm, but it's really more so I can see what my progress is and where I need to go back to with the 1200grit, or even 800grit in one case grrrr! In fact I had to go all the way back to 240grit at one point while learning how much heat the dremmel generates :banghead:

The little things that you wouldn't see at all on a solid colour acrylic are painfully obvious on this crystal clear stuff, in fact I've considered leaving them with a satin finish for that translucent look, but I think I'll stick with it.

I'm a bit short on tools tbh, in fact one dremmel and two hands lol, but I think they are coming along nicely atm. They are probably down iro 3.5-4mm per side, and next time I'd definitely consider 3mm stock and leaving the protective film on, rather than sanding the whole lot back.

I have loads of the clear acrylic in 5mm stock (well it looks 5mm I haven't measured it!), so I may give that fabric dye a go. I wonder if it would keep the transparency, but take on the colour, or if it'll become slightly translucent :thinking:

Cheers
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Well first, I've found it works on the British perspex as formulated many years ago. I believe US plexiglas is very similar, but it might be worth trying on scraps. I don't believe it sinks into the surface, so it would have to be done after polishing.

Another possibility which I'm sure would work, is to create a textured finish all over with the Dremel and a small ball burr, and then polish that.

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Well first, I've found it works on the British perspex as formulated many years ago. I believe US plexiglas is very similar, but it might be worth trying on scraps. I don't believe it sinks into the surface, so it would have to be done after polishing.

Another possibility which I'm sure would work, is to create a textured finish all over with the Dremel and a small ball burr, and then polish that.

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I just considered taking the perspex windows out of my kitcar......:w
I might give it a go on some scrap bits tomorrow, will post pics

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I kind of have some ideas floating around in my head about using polarising film at opposing angles to give some interesting patterns, possibly as a liner, or maybe only at the wedge.

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I've had some ideas like these as well, but I've been thinking liners. Shell material is what's been on my mind, but I can't see no reason it could not be used with wood, metal film, fabric or even photographs. Possibly sandwitching it inbetween 2 layers of clear plastic, or maybe gluing it on to the back. Used like this, the clear acrylic would kinda work along the same lines as clear epoxy coatings, providing both protection and rigidity to the scales.
I'd be very interested to see pics if you decide to go through with it.
Best of luck.

Plastic can be frosted with solvents. In the case of perspex ether is a solvent. But I think there are still drawing pens by Rotring and other makers which are of specially formulated, expensive plastic so as to resist an ink which etches into the plastic film used in the graphics art industry. The solvent is available separately for cleaning the pens, which consist of a tubular nozzle with a close-fitting rod inside. I believe this would attack most plastics in common use.

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Plastic can be frosted with solvents. In the case of perspex ether is a solvent. But I think there are still drawing pens by Rotring and other makers which are of specially formulated, expensive plastic so as to resist an ink which etches into the plastic film used in the graphics art industry. The solvent is available separately for cleaning the pens, which consist of a tubular nozzle with a close-fitting rod inside. I believe this would attack most plastics in common use.

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In terms of the specific chemicals to achieve this, Acetone is the most widely available, as most nail polish removers are made primarily of this.
I have access to other more exotic solvents through my laboratory work, but I'll leave the idea be for the present.

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Well I've started them now so I'll finish, but I won't use it again!
What do you make of the shape also?

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See-through acrylic in not my favorite but these look good! Looks like a good sized blade will be in there.

Wait...the old scales were leather ?

...Ray

If you do want micromesh and can't get it in the UK, drop me (or if you are friendly with someone in the US, them) a line; it's not expensive to get a kit and Woodcraft, and then it can be mailed over the pond.

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

If you do want micromesh and can't get it in the UK, drop me (or if you are friendly with someone in the US, them) a line; it's not expensive to get a kit and Woodcraft, and then it can be mailed over the pond.

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Thanks for the kind offer, that's very much appreciated!
I think I've seen a couple of traders on the bay selling it, and my friend owns her own hardware store so might ask her if any of her suppliers stock it.