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12-07-2008, 07:03 PM #1
heavydutysg135's Edge Uniformity Test post?
I was wondering where Heavyduty's thesis about the edge uniformity test was? (The one that got the whole basic and advanced honing subsections started). I can't find it and it's a pretty important (IMHO) thread.
Thanks,
Mark
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12-07-2008, 08:09 PM #2
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Thanked: 1212The original thread was posted by David "Heavyduty" Polan, on BadgerandBlade. Section 6-6, Sharpness Tests Vs. Edge Uniformity Tests - Bevel Creation Guide - Badger & Blade
I think a reworked version is in the Wiki: Bevel Creation Guide - Straight Razor Place Wiki.
Bart.
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12-08-2008, 04:36 AM #3
Hey guys, I am honored that someone felt that my article was important enough to put in the shave Wiki, but I am surprised, disappointed, and feel disrespected that someone took my post from another forum, made a few minor changes (just changing my "I's" to "We"), and did not ask or give the original author credit for the ideas and work and posted it as community work without any citations. This was done without my knowledge or approval. Isn’t this plagiarism or am I missing something? I would like to know who was responsible for this and why I was not informed. When I originally posted this article before the forum crash several of the most respected members of the forum outright insulted me for this article, and I made the conscious decision not to post it here again.
DavidLast edited by heavydutysg135; 12-08-2008 at 05:15 AM.
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12-08-2008, 04:55 AM #4
I am going to assume that whoever made that page did so as an honest mistake, and if that is the case then they need to read these pages so they have an idea of what they are doing:
Plagiarism.org : Learning Center : Plagiarism Definitions, Tips on avoiding Plagiarism, Guidelines for proper citation, & Help Indentifying Plagairism
Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This community is supposed to be made up of gentleman and I hope that we won't have this type of problem in the future or else I will not be a part of it.
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12-08-2008, 07:27 AM #5
Thank you, I will contact him and see if he knows what happened here.
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12-08-2008, 08:34 AM #6
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Thanked: 1212In the history page of that Wiki entry, you can see in detail who posted, and who did the subsequent editing. Revision history of "Bevel Creation Guide" - Straight Razor Place Wiki
BeBerlin has put a lot of effort in giving the Wiki a good start. I believe the idea was to dug out valuable info of (old) threads and give them a more permanent display in the Wiki fromat.
I think it would be much better to contact the original poster and encourage him (or assist him) to transfer his writings to the Wiki. I have suggested that on another thread, but BeBerlin was opposed against it. http://straightrazorpalace.com/gener...tml#post288902
Clearly, David, your rights were violated, but I'm very sure the people involved were not acting for their personal profit. They just tried to make the best possibe Wiki. I hope you can come to an agreement.
Excuse me for linking to the article it in this thread. I was unaware that it was put there without your aproval. Maybe it helps to know that I gave you credit for your vast and generously shared knowledge about honing, in one of my own Wiki entries. A simple honing method with DMT-E , Belgian Blue Whetstone and Coticule - Straight Razor Place Wiki
Best regards,
Bart.
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12-08-2008, 10:41 AM #7
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Thanked: 1903Let me begin by clearly stating that this discussion is based on an honest mistake, combined with a gap in the communication between me, another member, and yourself. I have detailled that in a PM I just sent to you.
On a semi-related note, I would like to comment on one point here:
Just for the record, the only copyright notice I can find on B&B is the one in their Wiki. This happens to be Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 2.5 Generic - if you want to effectively protect your work from being used anywhere else, you will need to publish it under another license.
As I said: Sincere apologies offered, and I hope, accepted. I have taken the page off the Wiki until you declare this issue settled.