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nikolasnjerve Trying to learn my Nakayama 04-16-2012, 07:58 AM
Birnando Nikko. Sounds to me like... 04-16-2012, 08:18 AM
riooso I would take Birdando up on... 04-16-2012, 08:59 AM
nikolasnjerve Thank you very much for your... 04-16-2012, 10:40 AM
mainaman I'd focus on proper bevel set... 04-16-2012, 11:54 AM
nikolasnjerve This is really interesting,... 04-16-2012, 12:25 PM
JimmyHAD I am not experienced in... 04-16-2012, 01:30 PM
nikolasnjerve I'm having a great time, just... 04-16-2012, 02:19 PM
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nikolasnjerve Like everyone else I´m only... 04-16-2012, 03:03 PM
Kees I never use slurry on my... 04-16-2012, 05:12 PM
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    Default Trying to learn my Nakayama

    Having bought a Nakayama asagi maruka kamisori from a reputable vendor, I am confident that this is a great stone. My problem is that I am kind of new to honing with J- nats and this is probably the reason why my edges seem to fall apart before the slurry reaches the "broken down" stage. I hone the edge to shave able on my Shapton 4k, after this I do about 2 or 3 slurrys with the botan until the bevel is evenly white and feels a bit sticky on the TPT, then I reach for my mejiro and go about 50-60 strokes on 2-3 slurrys until the bevel is hazy white and feels very sticky on the thumb. Now I feel it's time for the tomo, I raise a slurry for about a minute until it is quite thick and has a almost yellow colour, 30 circles and about 20-30 strokes thickens the slurry, so I dilute it with a few drops of water and make some new slurry whitout removing the old,even if there is no evident colour change in the slurry.20-30 circles and same amount if strokes, and the bevel colour is where it should be according to everything I have red, so I stop refreshing the slurry and just go on honing for maybe 70-80 strokes, now the slurry is almost dry as it apparently should be at this stage, still not a significant colour change but I do not dare to go on. The razor seems quite dull before stropping, after stropping it is HHT-3/4 at some places. Under magnification it seems like strips of the edge is missing making the light reflect from where the edge seems almost square
    I know this most likely points to severe overhoning, but I cannot get the slurry to break down with less strokes, more pressure maybe, or did I buy a stone exclusively for use on Japanese style kamisori honed with great pressure. Bottom line is, I do want to use slurry trying to get the famed broken down J-nat slurry smoothness, but I havent got what it takes to use this stone yet.
    If some of you out there has any answers or could point me in the right direction I would be very happy, if not I fear this could be a long journey with a unknown end for me and my Nakayama.
    Last edited by nikolasnjerve; 04-16-2012 at 07:06 PM.
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