Buyer's Wall of shame anyone? Hope not!

We talk about dishonest sellers, but what about buyers? Here is this morning's experience, which in fact started a few weeks ago, seemingly with an innocent mistake.

So I sold an item on eBay, posted it from Serbia to the UK and it all looked normal for a while.

A few weeks ago I get the following message, 3-4 days after I've shipped the item:
"Item is lost. You need to file a case with the carrier. I expect a full refund. Will open case with eBay."

... to which I respond in the friendliest possibly voice: "..but hold on, your item has not even left Serbia. Please give it another week, or maybe even longer, with the holiday season and all...", but thinking to myself, there will be trouble.

He responds: "Apologies, messaged the wrong person" and we both go silent for a few weeks. I have a sigh of relief and go about my business, but this thing is constantly in the back of my mind, as if I sensed something fishy was about to take place.

Anyway, during this time, I am tracking the item online and finally, I see it was delivered yesterday! A huge relief! Or, is it....?

This morning I get a message from the buyer: "Item seems lost. If this is not delivered today, I am opening a case. Not the first item I had lost during the holidays."... same story and I am thinking, yeah, well, what else is new?

I respond politely, again, showing them the tracking information. Then I get on the phone and get Royal Mail to send me a copy of the delivery receipt. I have this document now, with the person's actual signature on it. Following this, I've sent another message to the buyer, in a neutral voice this time, saying that I have the evidence of receipt and have reported them to eBay.

What this person does on eBay is very clear to me, since two weeks ago, when I checked the account, prompted by the first message received. They buy very reasonably priced items and then resell them. At the same time, they open refund cases with eBay, claiming they never received the original item. They use the holidays and the busy post offices/customs to blame for "losing their stuff". They probably even get their money back sometimes, then they resell the items and lo and behold: Double profit!

I am waiting to see how eBay will handle this case of obvious attempt at theft. My spirits are seriously down this morning.... and it's not even about the money. :(

That is shocking behaviour. Sadly quite common though and all that happens when people are caught out is they open a new account with ebay and carry on. Good luck resolving it!

Thank you for the sympathies, I do hope this kind of thing doesn't happen around here.

He has responded, now saying "maybe his neighbour picked it up", stating he guarantees it is not his signature on the form... But I never sent the form to him, he never saw the signature, so I can't see how he would know... I know, I know, he allegedly didn't sign it, so it can't be his, right? But then why not say "Hey, that's weird. I never signed a form. Let me look into that", instead of saying "I guarantee, it's not my signature".

The signature clearly shows the first initial of his name, followed by his last name. Written very poorly, as if he planned this all along... I am now waiting for him to claim someone forged his signature, because it does look like my 2 year old wrote it out.

This whole "neighbour thing" doesn't add up, because the package was delivered yesterday. A good neighbour would have already reported it and handed it over. The good neighbour would have signed their own name and not forged his.. the postman should have made sure things are legit, especially for an international signed-for service.

I'm 99% sure he will force me to deal with the carrier, claiming his money back and I will need to try and get it back from Royal mail (read his first message to me, the one intended for someone else). In the end, the postal service is at loss and the scammer lives on. I hope I'm wrong.

I would speak to my Consigliere about sending a crew over to his address to discuss the situation.:rofl2:

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Originally Posted by Raol

I would speak to my Consigliere about sending a crew over to his address to discuss the situation.:rofl2:

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Do you say that because I'm Serbian, or...? [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by Srdjan

Do you say that because I'm Serbian, or...? [emoji23]

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Nope, not at all.

I don't sell a lot on eBay but I have had similiar situations happen in the past. Once the tracking (in USA) said it was delivered but buyer said he didn't get it. He tried to open a case in eBay but they sent me a message telling me they requested he wait a bit more. The package was actually marked by the postal worker as delivered but he had it in his vehicle when he returned. The package was delivered the very next day-issue was resolved and everyone was happy. eBay said that as long as the tracking stated it was delivered I was off the hook anyways so I always get tracking now.

The other time a buyer bought a strop from me and said it was wrinkled in delivery. I asked him to return it and he said he still wanted it but also wanted a partial refund. It wasn't worth my time to ask for proof and all that so I just sent him a partial refund of $35. Issue resolved.

All in all, people are out there that take advantage but in my limited experience they are the minority. Given the HUGE customer base I am reaching through eBay I can't complain.

Thanks Steel, you've given me some comfort in thinking I may be off the hook. No developments since early afternoon, but I am still waiting to hear from eBay and for the final resolution.

@Raol I was just playing around. A couple of years ago, someone told me one of the strongest mafia oranizations in Europe are Albanian and Serbian, followed by some others more, or less famous. I thought you may have heard something similar. This information was surprising to me, but hey.. what do I know! I don't even watch TV, or read the news anymore, I find it all too depressing. ;)

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Originally Posted by Srdjan

Raol A couple of years ago, someone told me one of the strongest mafia oranizations in Europe are Albanian and Serbian, ;)

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Perhaps you might wish to enlighten your UK buddy of that fact. :w

The New year started well, I have won against the scammer... And using no muscle, other than the one under my scalp ;) Phew!

Srdjan.... I am happy you won!!!

I've had a package that was "marked delivered" to my community mailbox. I tracked the package daily. When I got the notice it was delivered, I opened my bin.....NOTHING! I filed a complaint with Canada Post. Notified the seller and eBay. Evidentially, the mail carrier put the parcel in someone else's mailbox. BUT it was marked "delivered". I got a refund and never saw the package. I would have rather gotten my package instead of the refund from eBay. I hope to never have to worry about a mis-delivered package again. But I am sure it will happen to me or someone else. I'm not a fan of the community mailboxes. Too easy to make mistakes. I hope the dishonest person who has my missing straight razor gets "what they deserve" sometime or another. Karma can be a mean one at times!

You seem to be a stand up guy. You made the effort to talk to the post office, filed the complaint and actively participated in the resolution of the issue. It's too bad you never got your razor and I also hope the seller got compensated, too, cos it seems this was the fault of the Canada post.

I've had a coticule from the Ardennes get lost as well. I tracked the package and talked to Anne@Ardennes daily, trying to resolve the issue. The carrier was Yodel, I remember this like it was yesterday, it was such a pain to get them on the phone... Eventually, I realized the package got stuck in one of their delivery centres, through their own fault. They told me it was stuck with them for too long, that it would have to be returned and there was no way to get it delivered to me anymore. I informed Anne of my findings and kindly asked her to send me another stone, while they wait to either get the original one back, or get reimbursed by Yodel. She was kind enough to do that and I think they got reimbursed properly. Incidentally, I spoke to her again a few days ago and it was a very pleasant conversation.

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Originally Posted by Srdjan

The New year started well, I have won against the scammer... And using no muscle, other than the one under my scalp ;) Phew!

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Well, down here in South Al. I would just look up my local **** leader and explain the situation to him!!.:D

I've about decided selling on eBay is simply more trouble than I care to suffer.