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An additional set of questions:
1. Would you want to reknot on that brush at all? In general would you reknot old brushes (e.g an old rubberset)
2. how would you even reknot a metal brush?
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An additional set of questions:
1. Would you want to reknot on that brush at all? In general would you reknot old brushes (e.g an old rubberset)
2. how would you even reknot a metal brush?
I think it is an interesting vintage piece of kit that may need a lot of work to bring it back as in replating?
Yes, I have replaced knots in vintage handles for sanitary reasons.
If you go to the Brushes forum then the Brush Makers Alcove sub forum you will find how to reknot brushes. You'll find threads like this https://sharprazorpalace.com/brushma...-3-reknot.html .
Bob
replating? I thought you could just do with polishing no? that'd be some "i have to send this to a pro" type of work wouldn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'm indian so there's a fair chance my mom could take it to india on her next trip and get it polished there by a pro...but - is it smthg I could do myself?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
(I'd probably leave the reknotting to someone else though).
I would imagine the re-knotting would be easier. If I can do it, you can do it! I don't have any experience with replating, but my understanding is that it isn't super difficult. A little google, a little youtube, and bada bing bada boom.
It's a nice set. I think if I was to get it I would clean it up and put it on a shelf. It's a lovely vintage piece, but I don't think I'd take a chance of damaging it by using it.
Hard to tell from the photos what it really needs. It was just a thought to keep in mind when considering the item. It very well could just need a good clean and polish. There is very little that can't be done if you want to try it.Quote:
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Bob
Give the knot a good cleaning with " Shout" laundry stain remover, or oxy clean, then a couple times with shampoo, then a go with conditioner.
U can clean the mug with " Never Dull" metal polish.
At that price it's not sterling silver, just plate and it looks like the plate is worn through so polishing won't do it. It will have to be replated.
They do sell kits for that but it's something better left to a pro.
Your right on that, I'd like to have mine replated. But they can be cleaned and polished, to the point that's its very difficult to see where its wore thru, or flaked off.Quote:
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Oh that's right, I remember seeing a picture of that elsewhere on the forum, it does look really nice! Is it something you use regularly?Quote:
Originally Posted by outback
Never tire of seeing your brush and scuttle, Mike!
I pull it out on occasion, typically cool weather times of the year. Its actually a scuttle, so...warm lather for cooler times of the year.
They can be a bit of work, taking care of them. It doesn't take long for them to start oxidizing, (tarnish) after getting them looking nice. But the tarnish actually protects the silver, to a point.
Eventually, replating them is inevitable.
Careful to what you clean and polish them with, most metal polishes are too harsh, and will remove the plating.
it finally arrived...condition is a bit worse than it looked in the pics from the auction. Think i have to replate this? From what I've been told that's silver patina, and LOTS of it, so not sure how deep the plating goes. (or if it's sterling). I'll try Nevr-dull and see how it goes though. Cuz a quick googleing tells me plating is NOT something I can afford.Quote:
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Edit: Someone told me about this: http://www.razoremporium.com/blog/sa...patina-removal. I gave the brush one quick round and OMG it makes such a huge difference. Between this and some Nevr Dull (which i assume helps "shine it up" a bit?), I should be good to go! It won't look like new i don't think, but then again, it's not supposed to.
1 full round of a VERY foul smelling baking soda/Aluminum soaking later:Quote:
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maybe 1 more round of this (honestly i cannot begin to describe to you the permeating foul smell of this) and then Nevr Dull. There still seems to be some portions of black/patina type deal esp. on the brush handle that simply isn't going away (technically the brush went thru 2 cycles of baking soda soak). Hopefully the Nevr Dull can polish up the rest of that.
I just popped the knot right off actually, the handle itself is completely hollow with a bottom, like i could pour water into it and it'd keep the water. Seems to be 20mm. Hopefully I can get a new 20mm knot and pop it in after the cleanup.
Notes:
1. The inside of it is a really nice and thick container made out of some sort of porcelain or similar. Put it thru a nice full cycle in my dishwasher cleaned up real good!
2. Does ANYONE know anything about this at all? There are basically no identifying marks or nothing, and the seller didn't seem to know much either (or didn't mentioned anything)...I'd love to know at least some estimate of age, if nothing else.
Are you sure the dark spots you mentioned that won't come clean aren't bare spots where the silver plating has worn off over the years?
I'm also inclined to think that the dark spots that won't polish up are bare spots where the silver plate has worn off.
I'd do some research on the forum about replacing knots before attempting it. Normally. whatever the hole diameter is, say 20mm, you'd need a knot about 1mm to 1.5mm smaller than that.
I'd also be inclined to think that the inside white container is made of what is called milk glass.
Bob
Interesting. I initially thought all the spots were plating having worn off until someone told me it may not be and pointed me to the baking soda trick. I'm still debating doing one more round in the pot with both brush and cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
Honestly, I'd feel MUCH better having someone else do the reknotting part...
Keep in mind any chemical treatment like the baking soda routine will clean tarnish but will not polish the silver and you will be left with an opaque dull finish which then has to be polished. The best bet is some Gorham Foam cleaner which is gentle and will take some time but will clean and polish.
so what i'm doing is the baking soda to remove tarnish AND THEN Nevr-Dull to polish it.
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Originally Posted by Tjh
I did not say for sure that the plating had worn off but was inclined to think so. You'll find out soon enough if you keep soda cleaning and polishing. Hope that works but don't be too disappointed if it does not.
Bob
Anyone tried the aluminum/salt/water softener/water method for cleaning silver? I think it is supposed to work well on objects with a lot of crevices and detail work.
Is it the same core reaction as baking Aluminum/Baking Soda thing? I don't mind giving it a try if you tell me what to do! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JP5
Also: Did another round. it's coming out very well, most of the black areas have gone. The whole thing requires a lot of rubbing, but I think I can do more because I still see black stuff come off on the Nevr-Dull cotton and the towel I use for buffing.
The extra cleaning has now finally revealed some of the detailed crevices/carvings as well as scratches in some areas.
There are parts that are shining but are slightly differently colored than the majority (look at the bumpy portion at the top of the lid)...I'm thinking THOSE may be where the plating has truly come off?
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Congrats, that is turning out a lot better than I thought it would. Looking good now.
Bob
She's lookin real good, now. The fun part is to keep it that way. A good wax will slow it down, from oxidizing.
I think you’ve managed to rehabilitate those pieces brilliantly. The difficulty will be keeping them that way. Have you thought about using Renaissance Wax as a final finish?
It’s available from Classic Edge
https://classicedge.ca/index.php?rou...531&search=Wax
so do I need to keep re-applying the ren. wax every few uses etc? (Like is it gonna wash off when using it cuz it'll get wet, and i'll have to wipe it).Quote:
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Also: what do you all think: re plate or no replate?
That turned out rather nicely! My experience with Ren wax is that it doesn't do much for keeping things from tarnishing (kind of surprising i know).I've tried it on brass and silver and even without use it does tarnish. As for polishing silver i kind of like to leave the cracks and crevices of the design dark so as to make them stand out more. Hopefully one day i can find a nice shaving set like yours. If it were mine i wouldn't replate it, I think it looks fine.
That's a good point actually, replating it would take away the 'age'. Sorry, you said ren wax does NOT do much to prevent tarnishing? So shd I bother with it or no? I suppose tarnishing is inevitable then eh? (which brings me back to my idea in another thread about climate controlled boxes, vacuum sealed for our gear!).Quote:
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Anyway, finally got the boar bristles from golden nib. Boar's gonna take a while to get used to but kinda suits it (looks and feels close to how I think the original seemed to have been). I didn't even use silicone tho...had to use a bit of sandpaper then just JAMMED it in there, it's not going anywhere! Do i need to pull it out and use silicone? (Giggity!)
Side note: I used it today!
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Now, the only step left to complete the whole "shave like it's 1799" is to get some sort of authentic 18th/19th cent. shaving soap? Are those a thing?
here's a company that sells all sorts of anti tarnish things for silver. It will give some idea as to what's available.
You have brought it back to life with cleaning and polishing. The few signs of age/patina that are left is in keeping with it's age. I'd just leave it as is and not replate it.
Bob
You could always buy some shave soap from D.R. Harris. The company has been around since 1790.Quote:
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