Your advice please

I won this razor and it arrived earlier this week: Joseph Rodgers Straight Razor Hallmarked Sheffield on eBay, also, Barber Shop Shaving, Vanity Perfume Grooming, Collectables (end time 01-Jun-08 19:08:24 BST)

Razor seems unused but has lot of grime on blade, little or no rust around shoulder but nowhere near the cutting edge and only superficial. 6/8 blade is full wedge on one side and slightly ground on the other side (bit like Japanese razors). Scales are in mint condition.

Here's my problem: I love razor boxes. In the picture the box looks new. The box I got is different from picutered, and in bad condition, cap belongs to a different box.

Seller agreed to take the razor back and give me a refund.

What would you do: keep the razor and ask for a partial refund or send it back? I don't use razors that have no box. I keep my razors in the bathroom and found that boxes offer excellent protection against rust in slightly humid condtions.

I would request the box pictured if you could!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JMS

I would request the box pictured if you could!

---

+1 to that.

If not. Ask for a partial refund and sell it on here in the BST :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JMS

I would request the box pictured if you could!

---

+ 2 to that, but you would not have that dilema if you had not outbid me:w
glad it went to a good home though:tu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kees

6/8 blade is full wedge on one side and slightly ground on the other side

---

A full wedge on one side and ground on the other sounds like a barber's razor to me. If that is what it is, it is intended for shaving others and you won't be able to shave with it. I would send everything back.

+3 Try and get the correct box, like yourself I want the box as well, just seems to complete things.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JMS

I would request the box pictured if you could!

---

She claims she shipped it with a different razor.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ragnost

+ 2 to that, but you would not have that dilema if you had not outbid me:w
glad it went to a good home though:tu

---

Lucky sod!

Most ebay sellers think they are just selling an old razor and the box doesn't matter. As far as they are concerned its just a container. When time to ship, it's stuffed in the nearest box.

I've also seen sellers who list many razors. In one auction a razor is listed with an incorrect box. But in another auction by the same seller the box is listed with a different razor.
They're just ignorant... a razor with a matched box in good condition adds to the collectible value.

If you want THAT box You could explain that you are a collector of vintage razors and it is very important you have the matching box.
Ask her kindly to contact the person who now has the box. OR give you the contact info for that person and negotiate.

If you just want a razor box in good condition there are many selling on ebay for a few dollars... or you could post a request in BST.

What you have is a microtome blade. It was used in medical labs to cut tissue sample for microscopic examination.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by randydance062449

What you have is a microtome blade. It was used in medical labs to cut tissue sample for microscopic examination.

---

My thought as well. I think I'll send it back to her for a refund.

I bought the same razor from her a couple of months ago and returned it.

yep that is what I was going to say. Western razors are not asymmetric. Only medical razors are made that way. useless for shaving. send it back.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by randydance062449

What you have is a microtome blade. It was used in medical labs to cut tissue sample for microscopic examination.

---

Can you give us a little more information about this? Is there a text book or some piece of literature that describes this microtome razor? I'd really be interested.

I don't mean any offense, I'd just like to know if this is really a fact or something second-hand.

I have a nice Kinfolks razor that has this "wedge on one side ground on the other," in fact, the non-ground side is shiny and not very uniform. I don't think it would work very well in a precision microtome. Instead I would expect the flat side to be ground to a precision flat.

My guess is that it may have been a display razor. Ground on only one side because it was stuck to a display where no one would be looking at the other side.

Someone else said it was useless for shaving. Really? I honed mine and it shaves just fine. I had to tape the spine, that's all. It is queer looking though.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chimensch

A full wedge on one side and ground on the other sounds like a barber's razor to me. If that is what it is, it is intended for shaving others and you won't be able to shave with it. I would send everything back.

---

I'm sorry. A "barber's razor?" Where did you find out about this? I have read several barber textbooks cover to cover and seen nothing about a "barber's razor" with a flat on one side. In fact, the barbers appear to have used exactly the same kind of razors we are used to, ground on both sides.

If you look at the razors from Wade and Butcher, many of them are marked "for barber's use," etc., and they are all bilaterally symmetrical.

I am not trying to be insulting, but I am serious about trying to understand the history and use of these razors and coming across a new piece of information is extremely exciting...but it would be good if you could confirm this with a citation of some kind.

Thanks.

Here's an update. Seller admitted selling the box with a different razor and promised to make a full refund. I asked her if that included the cost of shipping it back to her. She never came back to me on that question so I filed a complaint wiith PayPal as this one was covered by PayPal buyer's protection. If I send something back I always send it registered and insured which will cost about 20 USD. I feel she should pay for that as well. That's reasonable ins't it or do you think I am too demanding here?

Anyone have experience with PayPal's buyer's protection?

If you just weren't pleased with the item I would say that you are going a little too far, but the truth is that the seller did not sell you what was pictured!
Nah, you're not going too far!

Sad to say but it's almost necessary, you need at least some sort of delivery confirmation.
You could accomplish much the same by using priority mail, and requiring a signature. (about $10)
but you still have to protect yourself. If this seller had this razor returned once as it sounds, she should have learned from it, and updated her description.
This isn't your problem, it's hers. She needs to make it right.



here's another prime example of a microtome razor...
once you've seen one, they are easy to spot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rodgers-wide-str...QQcmdZViewItem

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mike_ratliff

Sad to say but it's almost necessary, you need at least some sort of delivery confirmation.
You could accomplish much the same by using priority mail, and requiring a signature. (about $10)
but you still have to protect yourself. If this seller had this razor returned once as it sounds, she should have learned from it, and updated her description.
This isn't your problem, it's hers. She needs to make it right.



here's another prime example of a microtome razor...
once you've seen one, they are easy to spot.
Rodgers wide straight razor 6/8 - eBay (item 250260274240 end time Jun-23-08 19:33:23 PDT)

---

+1, if its been bought and returned before, then she should know that something is wrong with her description and she should correct it.

PayPal buyer’s protection works, I’ve had to use it once with a seller…
Won a razor… questionable pic, very little description. When it arrived the razor was wasted. Contact the seller and asked for a refund the reply was “no refund, ask Q before bid…”
That reply made me see “red”.

Any way, after a few weeks of replying to emails in the paypal control panel I won the dispute.
Was asked to return the item with delivery confirmation or tracking#. When it got to the other end the paypal transaction was reversed… I did not get back the return postage.

You will get the original shipping back because it’s already in the transaction.