Never heard of this brand.
Auction: Straight Razor DOUBLE CUCKOO SOLINGEN 6/8 w.case UNUSED en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 10-févr.-09 03:30:00 Paris)
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Never heard of this brand.
Auction: Straight Razor DOUBLE CUCKOO SOLINGEN 6/8 w.case UNUSED en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 10-févr.-09 03:30:00 Paris)
I am sorry Leon, I cant get the link to work.
It sure looks very nice...
I wouldn't mind having that one in my collection...:)
:OTI never won any razors on auction due to stupid eBay auto bidding system or whatever that is...
No matter how much I bid & when I bid it just tells me that I have been outbid, and when I look in bidding history I see automatic bids made just a second before I managed to put my bid...
How to get around this?
Thanks eddie, Leon that looks really nice.
That's a nice looking razor; I've never heard of it either. I'm a sucker for yellow scales though.
Don't set your heart on anything until you actually win it. I've been outbid as you say dozens of times but I've also picked up a lot of good deals. Be patient, and wait until the last minute to put in your maximum bid and don't go over it. And of course, prepare to be disappointed when you receive it and it's not quite as nice as the description made it sound. :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert1988
You've been the victim of "sniping". It's been the bane of ebay since day one. There are alot of sniping proponents, and alot of people dead set against it. I posted my feelings about it in a thread here a couple months ago, and I ended up just abandoning the thread because it became so heated/emotional. Unfortunately, right now sniping is the most effective way to increase your chances of being successful in winning an ebay auction. If there's something on the bay you really want, do a google search for ebay snipe and go nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert1988
Just so you know, ebay is currently reviewing and evaluating how auctions end. Right now, the fastest/last snipe wins, which is not really in the spirit of a true auction. Have you ever seen an auctioneer sit there and stare at their watch, say "go", then "stop", and the last person wins without anyone ever having a chance to respond to the final bid? In a traditional auction, the bid/counterbid continues until everyone is done and had a chance to respond to the final bid. Then, and only then, is the auction declared over. In that spirit, ebay is considering extending auction end times until a certain amount of time has passed since the latest bid to give people a chance to counterbid.
Love it or hate it, sniping really is the best way to improve your odds on ebay right now. You can also contact ebay with your opinion on sniping. They're really listening to people's input on this subject right now.
You cannot get around this, it's the very core of the automatic bid. Nothing to do with sniping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert1988
Let me explain: I see a razor and bid 100 on it. The starting bid is 10. It will say current bid 10, minimum bid 10.50. It says that even though it knows I have bid 100. The system is made that way to allow me to win the item for the lowest possible amount if no one else bids more than I.
Now you come along and bid 20. As I bid 100, it will say 20.50 (since you bid 20 and it only increases my automatic bid as high as it needs to outbid you). You can bid 30 or 40 or 50 and so on. Unless you reach my bid, you'll always be outbid automatically.
That's incorrect. The highest bidder wins. It doesnt matter when the bid was placed as long as it was placed before the auction end time.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
The only thing you can do is place the maximum bid you are willing to pay, and then let the game begin. It really doesnt matter who snipes, if their bid is larger, they win, if your bid is larger you win. Everybody bidding in the last 5 seconds isnt going to change a thing.
Sniping can and does help you win the auction for a lower amount in case the auction is not won by an automatic bid. But the highest bidder still wins, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by nun2sharp
That is technically correct. HOWEVER, NO ONE HAS A CHANCE TO COUNTER THAT BID. And that's my biggest complaint. In a REAL AUCTION, the participants *always* have a chance to see, hear, *and counter* a bid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelius
The way it is now, ebay is more of a silent auction (where everyone places secret bids via sniping programs) and after the time expiration, the envelopes are opened, and the highest bid wins without anyone being able to counter.
Sorry, I'll stop this nonsense now... I took this thread waaay off topic.
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A Double Cuckoo? No, I don't mean a dubl duck...
Never heard of this brand.
I'll try to put it back on. I've seen this razor before,but the seller didn't know it's name either.He/she called it "two birds pulling a razor".Now we know.
That's right, after the auction end time, no more bids are accepted. In real life auctions, this is very different indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
The way I see it (ebay) is this: with the automatic bid, you got shill bidders that'd get your bid right up to the max asap. So we learned to not really enter the real absolute max we were ready to bid so that we could stay below it when the shillers came and bid manually in the last seconds. If ebay had acted against multiple accounts from the same IP address or other known shill bidders, it would not have come to the way it is now that you so perfectly describe here
These days, the only reasonable option on ebay is to enter your absolute maximum amount into your sniper and hope for the best. It's not as comfortable to follow as it used to be, but if you really enter the absolute max you're willing to pay, being outbid should not bother you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
[Yes, I feel badly about continuing the thread hijack... but not enough to overcome my obsessive compulsive post response disorder]Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelius
DING! this is the crux of the matter. FloorPizza, think about this. You go to a flea market, see something and think "I'm willing to pay a maximum of X for that". Then you see someone getting ready to buy it for X+. Then you reconsider and think "Wait! I'm now willing to pay X++". Why? how did someone else's valuation of the item change yours? How did the value of the item itself change?
I could continue this debate for pages, but I'll stick to my above statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
As it was pointed out the only way to win an item on ebay is to place the highest bid before the deadline. As to various strategies of how to make this happen they should probably discussed in a separate thread. Seems to me in this case the problem is the price, not the timing.
I think it's an interesting razor, mostly because it's likely an attempt to capitalize on the more famous brand. I am not bidding on it as I'm not interested in owning it. If anybody here wins it I'd be curious to read their impression with it.
The razor looks really nice... but it might not be what it looks like... The "finest silver double fully razor" sure does sound like "engrish" to me. I might be wrong, though... this could be the find of the century! A rare razor? Or a fine piece of junk with gold leaf on it?... Anyone willing to drop 26 USD to find out? In the name of cience, maybe?... :D
Hell, I would spend the cash on it, but I can't read french.:shrug:
If it can be of any help, I'd be happy to translate ir for you. I'm not an expert, but french is a language I can, more or less, "make do" with... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joke1176
EDIT: Now I feel stupid... I went back to see the razor and realized the description is written in english. No wonder I could read it so well, I thought... my french must be in a might fine shape! Turns out I didn't even realize it was NOT in french! Damn you, Joe, for making me feel silly!... :D On the other hand... it's nice to know that my language skills are Okay!
It might be that your browser's language skills are better than yours... when I looked at it the first time it was in French... have to check again.