"Rare" Boker on eBay

What do you guys think about this H. Boker razor that was recently purchased on eBay? It looks like it may be very old albeit in good condition in my opinion. It has " The Oak" inscribed on the blade and "tree band" in silver inlays on both sides of the scales at the bottom. I'm thinking perhaps one of the first razors of this Brand because of the tree symbol design and "tree Brand" markings on the scales. I've never seen a H. Boker like this. Anyone know?:shrug:
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

I dont think thats the original tree trademark, not sure though, wait until one of the Boker gurus appear.

Here's a pic of various Boker trademarks.

So based on this list I should assume the razor was manufactured between 1869 and 1900 since it uses the "Tree Brand" trademark Logo. Holly cannoli! I think I got me a good razor!:y
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

sweet blade dude

I have been looking for a Boker that really stood out to put in my rotation but they all looked kinda the same.
Except THAT one!!!

SWEE

EE

EET !! :rock:

I want to be first on the list if you want to sell it !!!!
What did you pay?

how many razors does that make now???

Looks like you have gotten a really nice blade. Bokers shave great. And before Doc beats me to it. You should post this pic in the Boker Brotherhood club. It would be a really nice addition to the group. :tu

errr..... uh.... take me off that list thanks

Vintage Straight Razor Tree Brand H.Boker & Co. BEAUTY! - eBay (item 220427081541 end time Jun-09-09 19:15:14 PDT)

WTF are you newbs thinking?
seriously ????

that price is insane :mad:
$461 for some gold wash, minor pitting, and a questionable back scale????
(under the wedge pin, see the brown line?)

ATTENTION NEWBS
YOU ARE SCREWING UP THE PRICES !!!
STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nono:


for that price you could very nearly get a custom razor
Livi
Chandler
Roberts

why would you pay this for an old Boker?
sure they are nice, maybe even $200 nice sometimes

BUT $461 ?????????

I'm gonna go sit in the corner and cry because apparently my razor buying days are over :cry:

When I saw the bid history I thought it was a joke bid war :confused:

Yes it's more than what I expected to spend and it wont hurt my bank account. But 2 guys get into a bid war:jedi: over something they really like and somebody's got to walk away with the biggest "Tang" (if you will pardon my innuendo).Dude it's an 1869 BOKER and it's GORGEOUS!! Hence it will undoubtedly be my favorite razor.:y
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

Looking at the picture, it looks more like the 1924-1935 logo to me....

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Originally Posted by komjong

Dude it's an 1869 BOKER and it's GORGEOUS!! Hence it will undoubtedly be my favorite razor.:y

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Dude, look at the tree logo again. It's a 1924-1935 Boker. The blade looks just like a King Cutter with a different name.

I would tend to believe those dates to be more likely.

well I'm going to jump on the bandwagon here (or perhaps I started it) and say that those scales clearly look 1900-1950.

context grasshopper context
the scales clearly date that razor
they say "Duc" or "C-Mon" or "Clauss" to me

perhaps we could look into when Boker started adding #s to the tang
Henckel did the same, when did they start?

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Originally Posted by komjong

and it's GORGEOUS!!

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well, it certainly is a looker :)

That's one beautiful razor. If you can afford to spend that kind of money more power to you. Nice grab!!! :rock:

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Originally Posted by komjong

What do you guys think about this H. Boker razor that was recently purchased on eBay? It looks like it may be very old albeit in good condition in my opinion. It has " The Oak" inscribed on the blade and "tree band" in silver inlays on both sides of the scales at the bottom. I'm thinking perhaps one of the first razors of this Brand because of the tree symbol design and "tree Brand" markings on the scales. I've never seen a H. Boker like this. Anyone know?:shrug:
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

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Looks nice, although used and possibly restored. Clearer pics would help.
Auctions with poor quality pics like this will rarely see a 3 figure bid from me. I always think the seller is showing fuzzy pics on puropse ( to hide something).

Check this link for decent pics: Vintage George Johnson & Co. Straight Razor + Case - eBay (item 290322517284 end time Jun-11-09 15:56:36 PDT)

Granted ... not the best razor, but this seller really wants to sell this blade IMO because they took the time to photograph carefully aaannnnnddd they show all of the important parts of the razor clearly. Heck, I can get good photos from my cell phone if I take an extra 15 seconds to do it right.

If I wanted this razor, I would have a go at it for $125 max. To me, thats all it is really worth.

But maybe thats why I dont win many auctions ... lol.

Not a big fan of the gold wash, though. It doesnt help me shave any closer hahaha.

Seriously though ... for the price you paid for that Boker, you could have a nice brand new razor, honing, strop, etc ... with cash left over to take your lady out for drinks.

Plus, I dont consider Bokers to be super rare. I could be wrong with this statement, though. Remember, I am not an expert... but thats what I think about your auction winnings.

Noted. I am usually very frugal when it concerns spending but I think I've developed somewhat of a secret vintage straight razor obsession.:eek: But do not fret. I can afford it and also to continue taking my girlfriends out to nice restaurants for drinks and other goodies. :) But i do appreciate all of the feedback with its valid points.:tu
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

If you can afford that for an eBay boker, I'd suggest getting a custom Livi, some Japanese stones, and then flying Lynn to your house to show you how to use everything.

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Ofcoarse i can handle the livi and the stones if I was interested in those sorts of things. But why fly lynn in with a GREAT forum like this? I have everything i need here to help " Hone" my hobby. If i did'nt know any better I'd think you were trying to sass me with those comments pilgrim. kinda sounds like sour grapes.:D
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

Yeah, I'm being a smart aleck... All in good fun. No sour grapes here, I didn't have anything invested in this. do think you seriously overpaid, but the razor looks pretty.

no sour grapes here

I just enjoy a good nay-say ;)

wish I could afford a Livi :(

oh yeah, I thought he meant sour grapes over the boker... As for financial sour grapes, I have enough for what I need, and I owe no man a penny (at least for now) so I'm happy

Looks like a very nice razor. If you'd like to use it it should shave great as well.
I'm generally not fan of bolsters and gold wash, but I like it on this one.

As far as custom razors they are just different thing altogether. If I think whether I'd trade one of my best vintage razors for another custom one, I'm not sure that I would.

No offense taken youngster. But on a happier note! I checked the good ole mail box yesterday afternoon to find a set of H. Boker Hotties waitin' for me .Stop shaking your heads I only spent about 60 bucks a piece for these beauties albeit I think money well spent.:rock:
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

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Originally Posted by komjong

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Ofcoarse i can handle the livi and the stones if I was interested in those sorts of things. But why fly lynn in with a GREAT forum like this? I have everything i need here to help " Hone" my hobby. If i did'nt know any better I'd think you were trying to sass me with those comments pilgrim. kinda sounds like sour grapes.:D
"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

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First, I have to say that if you are happy with your purchase that is fine and all that really matters. The group of us here have a natural tendency to help newbies and that means to politely point out when a mistake has been made. I do have to agree with the lot here that the price you paid for that Boker, how ever sweet it may be, was well beyond it's value to the general straight razor group. Fret not, you are not the first, and be sure not the last to do so. Also, as far as dating the blade I agree with the 1924 or older. Scales with inlays and blades with gold wash started showing up around that time period. I recently read an insert to a Boker noting the gold wash and King Cutter being new to straights and other coping that name and technique, referring to them as fakes.

Please, enjoy your purchase and spend you money as you wish. If you ask us for input be ready for the truth. :gl:

Again, as I've said before in this post. I appreciate the feedback whether what form it comes in however to be frank it's none of your business as to what I spend. People in this world place their own value on the things they chose to. Perhaps an item that you would pay $40 for I would not offer a penny to. Don't impede on my choice because it's something YOU would not or perhaps could not do. I have not got offended until your crass POST. You are quite nervy sir. I can't speak for you but all I can say is where I come from there is a little thing we cherish and it's called manner.:mad:

"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

Whoa, let's take a step back here... I don't think anyone was being crass or disrespectful (except maybe me, and my post was a good natured ribbing). It is not anyone's business what you pay, until you ask for opinion. Once that box is open... well, you know.

By the way, I think that shoulderless you got is awesome.

hehe... ive got a box full of nice vintage razors, with a couple nice bokers, spent less than that! There is So many equally old/rare razors for less than that.:)
i guess if i had a thing for "oak" i might go for it. like if if my last name was oak.


glad you like it though:rock:
stay away from the items i bid on. :P

More power to you, sir and I sincerely hope you enjoy that razor. It's a looker to be sure.

I don't see what's wrong with him paying what he wanted to pay for that razor, or any razor for that matter. Can someone explain to me what's wrong with that?

And to those of us that have razors in our collections that we decide to sell in the future, may be reap the reward of receiving many many many many more times the price that we paid for them should razor prices trend to the hundreds of dollars per razor.:rock:

Chris L

I don't think there is anything wrong, we are seeing free market economics in all of their glory. Anyone can spend what they think a razor is worth. And anyone else can say that they overrpaid. I've seen plenty of pretty cars sold for well over their worth because someone who really liked them wanted to get rid of some cash.

Then again, I can't help but wonder if the purchase price had less to do with the amount of disposable income, and more to do with an honest misjudgment of value... I've seen plenty of new guys get a "super rare so and so" for well more than double it's value because they didn't know what they were looking at. On the other hand, ive seen some sweet sheffields go for way less than their worth because the seller didnt know either. Ebay is a strange place, but i am considering selling a few "rare" razors now and praying for a bidding war..

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More power to you, sir and I sincerely hope you enjoy that razor. It's a looker to be sure.

I don't see what's wrong with him paying what he wanted to pay for that razor, or any razor for that matter. Can someone explain to me what's wrong with that?

And to those of us that have razors in our collections that we decide to sell in the future, may be reap the reward of receiving many many many many more times the price that we paid for them should razor prices trend to the hundreds of dollars per razor.:rock:

Chris L

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Wow this place is as rough as High School. You people are killing me, what a Forum!:rofl2:

"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

Ok gents lets put a sock in the discussion on prices. A razors worth whatever someones willing to pay end of story. Congratulate the man on his razor or let it go. Anymore of this and I will close the thread!

that is a very nice looking razor, and I really think you will like it. Congrats.
FWIW we may be an opinionated group (check any of the conversation threads), but there isn't a member I can think of that wouldn't do anything to help if someone asked. I really do wish you the best of shaves with your boker, I love mine.

Cheers

Dave

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Originally Posted by Del1r1um

I don't think there is anything wrong, we are seeing free market economics in all of their glory. Anyone can spend what they think a razor is worth. And anyone else can say that they overrpaid. I've seen plenty of pretty cars sold for well over their worth because someone who really liked them wanted to get rid of some cash.

Then again, I can't help but wonder if the purchase price had less to do with the amount of disposable income, and more to do with an honest misjudgment of value... I've seen plenty of new guys get a "super rare so and so" for well more than double it's value because they didn't know what they were looking at. On the other hand, ive seen some sweet sheffields go for way less than their worth because the seller didnt know either. Ebay is a strange place, but i am considering selling a few "rare" razors now and praying for a bidding war..

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Who knows how fast it's going to happen, but vintage razors are a finite item that will only get more rare as time goes on and......more expensive. IMO that's a given. I don't see how it could do anything other than progress to a point where prices for even average vintage razors increase over time to a point where those who look only for bargains (like me) decide they can't afford the hobby any longer and move on to something else or stick with what they have if they're shavers (like me). I know an antique dealer that frequently tells me that antiques in general are a good investment. I've always thought for the most part, that much of what is sold as "antique" is just crap that really won't appreciate much. Vintage razors OTOH....If they're average to above average to excellent? Buy razors not gold!:)

Chris L

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Originally Posted by komjong

Wow this place is as rough as High School. You people are killing me, what a Forum!:rofl2:

"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

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Originally Posted by Del1r1um

If you can afford that for an eBay boker, I'd suggest getting a custom Livi, some Japanese stones, and then flying Lynn to your house to show you how to use everything.

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:roflmao:rofl2::roflmao

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Originally Posted by komjong

Wow this place is as rough as High School. You people are killing me, what a Forum!:rofl2:

"People who like this sort of thing will find this is the sort of thing they like." -Lincoln-

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I'd just like to say thank you to Komjong for being such a good sport. I know some more sensitive souls would have taken insult to some of our comments here. None of them were vindictive, but they could have sent some lesser members to scurry away never to return.

I'm glad Komjong has had a sense of humor about it.
I'm glad to welcome him to SRP.
Finally, I'll be glad to have him buy any of the overpriced razors I put in the classifieds!:D

Nice razor.
What's it worth?
Whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
It's like guns.
You can throw away any blue book of gun values.
If you go to a auction site with blue book in hand you will be out bid on EVERYTHING!

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Originally Posted by komjong

...however to be frank it's none of your business as to what I spend.

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hey, you started the thread :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Doc

Ok gents lets put a sock in the discussion on prices..... Anymore of this and I will close the thread!

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uh... I'm sorry, I think I missed this rule, let me go re-read them.
All apologies.


Hey Kom, that shoulderless is sweet.
I love to see unusual grinds from common brands.

I also have at least one razor that I paid more than I should have, but I love it no less.
Probably more.

No problem, and thanks for the welcoming to SRP notwithstanding a very unique welcoming at that!:D

"REMEMBER, The mightiest "Oak" was once a little nut that held it's ground."

ok ..

What is that dude eating .. ?

I know .. I know ..


:OT

I couldnt resist ... It looks like a raw squid.

He must be hungry lol.