Thread: c-mon razor question

Originally Posted by dave5225

How is this dishonest ? A person can ask whatever price they see fit , for whatever they're selling . There's nothing dishonest about it . An outrageous price should repel buyers , not seduce them .

I agree, there is nothing dishonest about setting what ever price you see fit -- AS LONG AS it is obvious to the purchasing party that it is the price YOU see fit... not the going price/value the market has set...

I also agree that an outrageous price should repel buyers -- IF the buyers are educated enough to know the price is outrageous...

If a buyer willing and knowingly pays a higher price for an item because he really, really wants it, then cool beans - that's HONEST to goodness capitalism at work.

However, if a seller KNOWS his price vastly exceeds fair market value, AND knows the reason he's about to close a sale is because the buyer isn't familiar enough with it to know the market value, then he is willingly and purposely taking advantage of buyer.

It's called 'price gouging' -- in this particular form of it the seller is intentionally trying to prey on a potential buyer's lack of knowledge... versus forcing him to pay a higher price out of inescapable need (such as charging $10 for a gallon of milk because a hurricane is coming and you know customers have no other choice than to pay it or go without milk...)

Hopefully this sheds a little more light on what I meant when I said, "If a seller knowingly posts an item at an outrageous price in hopes of seducing a buyer it is dishonest...".

As far as this particular eBay item/situation and its re-listing goes, I don't know if it's some kind of honest misunderstanding about his product... or really is an attempt to lure in - and take advantage of - and uneducated buyer. All I know is, I would stay away...

well here's a new twist - this gentelmanly seller seems to have agreed to cancel the transactiomnf rom the poster, but has RE-listed the item, again as an "antique c-mon razor", with no mention of its franken-ness, this time as an auction with starting price of $60 and buy-it-now of $78....

Originally Posted by Mijbil

well here's a new twist - this gentelmanly seller seems to have agreed to cancel the transactiomnf rom the poster, but has RE-listed the item, again as an "antique c-mon razor", with no mention of its franken-ness, this time as an auction with starting price of $60 and buy-it-now of $78....

If you click on 'see other items' and then go to the menu on the left and click on 'completed listings' you'll find that after the OP canceled the transaction the seller re-listed at the same price yesterday morning and then ended the listing again and re-listed at the current price. Whatever that is about.

BTW, when a buyer decides not to complete a transaction the seller simply applies for and receives a credit on the listing fee and the final value fee. So aside from the hassle of re-listing he loses nothing but time.

Up until last year a seller could post a negative feedback on a buyer. Since ebay changed their feedback policy a seller can only post positive feedback with no other alternative. This has made the behavior of ebay sellers much more customer service oriented.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

BTW, when a buyer decides not to complete a transaction the seller simply applies for and receives a credit on the listing fee and the final value fee. So aside from the hassle of re-listing he loses nothing but time.

Up until last year a seller could post a negative feedback on a buyer. Since ebay changed their feedback policy a seller can only post positive feedback with no other alternative. This has made the behavior of ebay sellers much more customer service oriented.

It must be different in the Uk then, Jimmy - you can only recover the final value fee, not the listing fee.

The increasing restrictions applied by Ebay to sellers (can't accept cash/cheques, can only accept PayPal for some transactions, must always offer PayPal as an alternative payment method, must maintain a certain of "stars" or your listings fall lower down the search engine list/ you get no or reduced account savings/ you lose or get a lower power-seller rating etc etc etc) is one of the reasons I stopped selling on Ebay. Not being able to leave fair feedback for buyer performance is what broke the camels back for me. I got non-paying winners telling me "sorry, I changed my mind" too often to fall for that sell-out of sellers by Ebay too often, so bye-bye Ebay.

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

It must be different in the Uk then, Jimmy - you can only recover the final value fee, not the listing fee.

The increasing restrictions applied by Ebay to sellers (can't accept cash/cheques, can only accept PayPal for some transactions, must always offer PayPal as an alternative payment method, must maintain a certain of "stars" or your listings fall lower down the search engine list/ you get no or reduced account savings/ you lose or get a lower power-seller rating etc etc etc) is one of the reasons I stopped selling on Ebay. Not being able to leave fair feedback for buyer performance is what broke the camels back for me. I got non-paying winners telling me "sorry, I changed my mind" too often to fall for that sell-out of sellers by Ebay too often, so bye-bye Ebay.

Regards,
Neil

I agree... there is a terrible preponderance to screw over honest sellers in the current eBay system.

this is a classic example of why senior members tell newer guys to stay away from ebay.