Ok so maybe I am wrong, but I won a gillete fatboy for $14 and the shipping is 14.95 from Minnesota to Arizona??? I have shipped razors to Portugal and Germany for less!
Am I over reacting??
sorry for the rant.
adam
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Ok so maybe I am wrong, but I won a gillete fatboy for $14 and the shipping is 14.95 from Minnesota to Arizona??? I have shipped razors to Portugal and Germany for less!
Am I over reacting??
sorry for the rant.
adam
No, it's a typical ploy of some eBay sellers. Next time, check the shipping costs before you place a bid, and consider this an educational experience.
I did check, it said free! until I won...then it said 14.95 large flat rate expidited usps box.
why the hell does a 3in razor require a LARGE flat rate box!!!! the small box is $5 and more than big enough for the razor!!
Maybe it said "Free with Buy It Now"? Have you asked the seller about the change from free shipping?
I asked him about the $14.95 price tag and questioned about it stating that it should not cost that much to ship to AZ as I have shipped all over the world for half that price. He said "I'm sure it is."
....me no happy right now.....
It is nuts, but at least you know going in so you can calculate the total cost and bid accordingly.
Sellers didn't used to pay a fee on the shipping, so it was a trick for them to make a little more. Last I heard, sellers were paying a bigger fee on the shipping than the sales price, but I don't keep up with things like that.
I can't say I blame you. Did you find out why the shipping changed from "Free"?
See If it had said 14.95 for shipping I would not have bid!
SO what are my options, tell him I dont want to pay that and get -feedback?
or give him less that +feedback once I recieve the item?
I dont like this. Most Ebayer's I deal with are great people who accurately advertise and are more than willing to work with you!
No he has not responded to the change, I just want him to change from a large box to the small one....
Sue him (or her)!Quote:
Originally Posted by alb1981
I hope you took a screenshot of the ad saying "free shipping" right after you placed your bid
$14.95 is at the top end of what it usually costs me to get a razor shipped from the US to Australia. Normally it is about $10.
But some vendors pad their shipping costs massively. I don't bid on those. I have seen auctions listed with postage for a razor from the US to Oz at up to $70:dropjaw:
Ya that sux!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauly
What do you want to bet that he changed the shipping when his razor did break that $60 mark that Im sure he was hoping for with a Fatboy for sale.
Send him this link: https://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail-flat.htm
Or better yet, this one: https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/sto...egory=10000002
Tell him you want it packed in the small flat rate box and surrounded by crumpled newspapers. That should cost a total of $6.50 or so depending on how expensive a newspaper is. Ad delivery confirmation for another 2 bucks or whatever it costs.
I emailed him to ask if he can do the small flat rate. Have not heard back. Hopefully he comes to his senses!!
If you really want to do something about it, you can appeal to ebay and try to claim a violation of their following rule:
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Once the buyer has committed to purchasing the item, you can't change the terms of the sale.
Examples of prohibited behavior include:
Entering an amount for shipping costs when you're listing an item, and then indicating that you charge a different amount either in the item description or after the buyer has committed to buying the item
There are also rules in that section detailing what sellers can charge for shipping, which you might also be able to contest
I would try to resolve it with the seller though, and then I would stop using eBay because it sucks
Shipping a razor 1st class in the U.S. with tracking costs me about $2.50 maybe $1 more for packaging. $14.95 is way way out of line
Yeah, I'm with Lee. And if you didn't, do it on all subsequent deals on the 'bay. If it were me I'd take it, learn from the experience, and if you are genuinely sure they changed the shipping from free to 15 bucks, leave negative feedback. Maybe even officially complain to Ebay about it. Besides that, domestic shipping should not be that expensive.
James.
Ya I will Eat it if he wont change it, but I am really hoping he will. I enjoy ebay, and yet I hate gambling...odd lol
Just file a dispute, say he broke ebay rules. Sellers CANNOT give a buyer negative feedback. It is impossible. Incredibly stupid but true. So you're totally safe as a buyer. You also shouldn't get a non-paying bidder strike either, since the dispute would include the fact that he changed terms of shipping after auction end. I'm sure he will agree to cancel the transaction if you send the dispute.
Sellers aren't able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers. Buyers can. If he doesn't budge I would at least leave a neutral with the excessive shipping charges noted in your feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by alb1981
Although I know it's the principle and all that probably bothers you the most, as a side note, if the Fat Boy is anywhere decent you still got a great deal at $28.95.
Your option is to wait until they fix the shipping back to zero, if they don't, report them to ebay, because increasing the shipping after the end of the auction is against their terms.
And don't pay for the item, they will not be able to win a complaint against you when they are the ones who violated the sale terms.
Unless, of course you want the razor even with the expensive shipping, in which case, you pay and get it, then report them to ebay and leave negative feedback due to their violation.
What type of proof would eBay require that this was a "bait and switch"?Quote:
Originally Posted by gugi
They don't need any proof, they have the invoice the seller generated, so they know the seller put on shipping charges that were not in the listing. You should call ebay though - they often have long wait times, but then they'll tell you exactly what's going on and what you can do about it.
I can't read the guy's mind but ..... a medium flat rate box is about $14.00 for priority shipping. A small is half of that. A fatboy comes in a relatively fragile plastic case and the guy might want the added protection of the larger box with the additional packing. Now I skimmed the thread so I don't know if the shipping amount was posted in the auction description/details but if it was the seller is within bounds. Shipping via USPS is going up again on January 22nd. I remember the good old days of three cent stamps for post cards and five cents for letters. Eventually these will be the good old days. Save your money.
Jimmy, how can I save my money when stamps are 50 cents apiece?
Just charge $14.95 shipping when you sell a razor ..... works for me .... :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by hoglahoo
Pay the man and never deal with him again. But i would raise hell if it didnt come in the LARGE Box :rant:
or Dispute it.
I'll tell you, there are enough companies who have turned their shipping departments in money makers by charging big bucks for shipping and then using a bottom tier shipping service from UPS or Fedex which takes 2 weeks to ship within the U.S. So guys trying to do the same doesn't surprise me or upset me. I just ordered a heavy shirt from Duluth Trading and they charged me $15 to ship it. It came in a plastic shipping bag. I ran the charge on the UPS site and I could have shipped same for $9 and that's standard ground shipping. They sent it lower priority and I don't get the volume discounts they get. I figured they made $5 profit on that. Multiply that by all the orders they process and it's big bucks.
Ok well the seller finally responded and changed the shipping to $4.95
I am happy that she came to her senses lol!
thanks for all the response's gentlemen!
I'm glad everything has worked out. I know from personal experiance that opening a dispute can be a huge PITA. Luckily it didn't have to come to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by alb1981
$4.95 sounds a lot more reasonable, so all's well that ends well.
Though I'm not really an ebay buyer (or seller, for that matter) I do know what it's like to have a seller demand unreasonable shipping fees. Sometimes it's unavoidable if you really want your product, and they know that. One time I bought a nice razor from the SRP classifieds, and the seller demanded $20 for shipping after I paypal'd the full asking price. I agreed, thinking it was going to be priority and insured up the wazoo. More than 2 weeks later, my razor arrived in an ordinary cheap tiny bubble envelope, not tracked or insured. Not sure what my $20 paid for, but it wasn't for postage, that's for sure.
So I have been waiting and waiting around for my package. I decided to email the seller yesterday and again last night as there was no response. This morning I recieved an email stating that she had been on a deer hunt and forgot to mail my package. I am fuming....WTF I will avoid this chick like the plague next time. This is rediculous.
I smell seriously negative feedback ...Quote:
Originally Posted by alb1981
would I be wrong to? I mean so far this seller has not earned a single star in my book...Quote:
Originally Posted by PensacolaTiger
I think neg. feedback would be mandatory . Or at least neutral feedback . I think other buyers might like to be warned .Quote:
Originally Posted by alb1981
4.95 is not reasonable at all. This means that the package is not insured and not registered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan82
She should have been clear up front, but 15$ is totally reasonable for shipping if the sender is liable for delivery.
If people complain and demand cheaper shipping, they should state explicitly that they will accept the liability of shipping.
If they don't, then demanding 5$ shipping IS unreasonable.
I would agree with that if I had purchased a $600 one off custom or a 9/8 WB for barbers use etc (you get the idea), but we are talking about a DE that was produced by the millions and is not in the least uncommon! Now if it were in unopened condition, or near mint again I would agree, but for a $14 razor, paying 14 dollars to ship in the same country is silly. JMHO so take from it what you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Respectfully
Alb
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I agree. But in that case, she should have had you confirm that you are willing to accept shipping liability.
Someone has to take the risk.
For shipping within US with first class they can buy insurance and delivery confirmation and still be at around the $5 mark.
In any case the seller has to figure out this part at the time they create the listing, not after it ends. Any increase in the shipping after the auction has ended is a violation of the ebay rules, and if it were me I'd file a complaint, and leave negative feedback.
Received the razor today...the only thing not lied about was the date of production 1958. She charged me almost 5 foer shipping, but the stamp was 1.88 and there was no insurance or signature required. She reused a bubble wrap Manila envelope. The razor had a broken blade stuck in it, nice surprise when I was opening it, and was covered in mildew (razor was described as mint 1958 with one blade and no box)
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