anyone know anything about these?
C-MON CADILLAC 5/8" HOLLOW GROUND BLADE RAZOR RND/POIN | eBay
the scales look nothing like any others i have seen, are they a not so cheap knock off?
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anyone know anything about these?
C-MON CADILLAC 5/8" HOLLOW GROUND BLADE RAZOR RND/POIN | eBay
the scales look nothing like any others i have seen, are they a not so cheap knock off?
looks like this one here
Barber Supplies - Barbershop Equipment - C-Mon Cadillac Razor 5/8'
if I am not wrong they are made by Dovo
Seems to be a lot of "gotcha" stuff on ebay lately. Between the double-price kamisoris, the $600 japanese straight razors and barely used late model razors that are more than new...
This one might be a borderline "gotcha" but 47% higher, ebay's no bargain for a buyer who doesn't know what they're looking for.
I think a Dovo. They have absconded with several of the old names. Probably OK, buy don't pay more than Dovo money!
They do look alike.
but they also a little different.
This is the newly made C-Mon, Peter J. Michels. I am guessing but Dovo may have purchased the right to the use of the brand. The ebay offer is way to high, way to high.
Buy from the barber supply if you want one. That is where I got a couple of them. They are great shavers. Did not come shave ready but spent a few minutes on 12k and then one of my Japanese naturals, light on CrOx balsa and then stropped
on leather. I was surprised at what a great edge she took and delivered a very nice shave.
Grazor if you would like one send me a PM.
i need another razor like i need a poke in the eye, but i do really like the older C-MON, in particular the Cadillac. Not a bad looking razor though, good price on Barber site, would look nice in some custom scales.
Peter J. Michels was the sole distributor for Carl Monkhouse's "C-MON" razors when they were manufactured in Germany, as well as after Carl Monkhouse moved his family and factory to the US (1937). Peter J. Michels ceased operations in 1955. When Carl Monkhouse moved to Allegany, NY he continued producing straight razors and other cutlery; later, his son CM Jr took over the business, and after that his grandson CM III did the honors. The business is still there, but now under a new name -- Reblade Mfg. Co.Quote:
Originally Posted by lz6
I just got off the phone, after speaking with Carl Monkhouse III. He told me that a different firm -- Heritage Manufacturing -- has been producing C-MON razors for the last twenty years, but he doesn't know if they, or a different firm, is now producing C-MON branded razors.
What is clear is that "these" ain't "those"; in other words, look for either "Peter J. Michels", "Carl Monkhouse/Allegany, NY", or "Carl Monkhouse/Ellicottville, NY" on the tang, to be sure.
did you by any chance ask Carl what he had stashed in the attic?......hehehe.
No question that "these" are not "those".
This is one of the razors in question that is on the bay and available through a couple of the barber supply places,
and obviously newly made.
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JBHoren, sorry for the slight thread jack but I have neglected to tell you I like your avatar. I really enjoyed Max.
My "vintage" C-MONs with Peter J. Michels on the tang are different:Quote:
Originally Posted by lz6
- There is a comma between "Peter J. Michels" and "Inc."
- There is a middle line, which reads "Brooklyn, New York"
- All three lines are in UPPERCASE LETTERS
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I understand the difference. I have a couple of original C-Mons. This is kind of what bothers me. The razors out there that
I posted the pic's of will deceive many new shaver and straight razor buyers. As I look at the packaging, now that the subject came up, you literally cannot tell the source or maker of the razors, not on the plastic box nor on the info sheet included in the box. "made in Germany" may not be correct either as far as I know. I knew what I was buying as a $60 or so straight but, as we know, many buyers will not know unless
they read this thread.
Well i guess there must be alot of these and other types of razors sitting in the second drawer down that people have purchased and tried to shave with them. Although they can be honed and made shave ready, you would never know unless you found a site like this, besides, of course, the ones on the "Razors to avoid" list. Lz6, you say they arrived not shave ready? What about new Dovos and the like? Do they arrive shave ready? I can only imagine how disappointed i would have been after spending a fair bit of money for a razor and strop. Luckily, i purchased one from a member here that was good to go.
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Originally Posted by lz6
Thankfully, we're involved in an enterprise/hobby where sharing knowledge ranks right up there with "owning-and-operating"... and getting it doesn't require an FOIA request.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grazor
Aside: What I found interesting was that there's no entry in the SRP Straight Razor Database for "C-MON 'Cadillac'".
I purchased one of these from the SRP classifieds from a well known member about 12 months ago and am very pleased with it after having it professionally honed by another well known member on this site. He commented on how well it took an edge and what a great shaver it turned out to be.
"You never know until you give it a go!"
Sunbird
I recently followed this "Vintage C-MON Cadillac" auction on eBay: the Real McCoy, in beautiful condition, which ended-up going for all of $66. Sixty-six dollars! OK, we don't know how high the winner's maximum bid was -- I'm guessing $100 -- but the point is that they're out there, worth buying, and affordable.
I know... it sounds -- hell, feels -- "curmudgeonly", but I just don't like the idea of newly-manufacturing out-of-production straight razors... gone is gone... end of story. I also don't like replating DE razors, "coloring" old B&W films, or remaking Hollywood movies. But I find this ersatz "C-MON Cadillac" to be a particularly egregious example and, although they say "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", I think that in this instance it's more along the lines of deceptive marketing practices. It's clear that the new manufacturer has the legal right to use the trademarked names "C-MON" and "Cadillac", but it's as transparent and wannabe as Detroit marketing hybrid or all-electric cars as "green"... and then selling them for the cost of a foreclosed 2BR/2BA detached house!
I'm not arguing with any of our SRP members about the quality-of-shave from a C-MON_Cadillac:TNG, but my question is this: If it were marketed as a "Dovo Edsel", would you even be reading this thread? I doubt it; I know I wouldn't. Taking a free ride on the C-MON Cadillac name is just bad for everyone.
I have to agree with JBHoren, the old C-MON to me are a work of art, yet to own one. Saw one go for less than $66 on e-bay, and the only reason it isn't on it's way to me is because they wouldn't ship international. But hey, at least it's not a "Johnny Depp" special, then you would have nothing but a folding letter opener, that's assuming they can cut paper.
Looks like the way they are marked as well. The "cadillac" looks to use the same lazer etching that Dovo uses, while the originals look stamped or electro-etched. Wondering if I could get some info on this one if no one minds?
Razor Emporium | A gentleman’s source for his vintage shaving needs.
There's a State Farm commercial currently running on TV, with a subplot about "You can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true."Quote:
Originally Posted by tiddle
Here it is
Having said that, here and here (scroll to the bottom, on this one) are links that explain much about Peter J. Michels-produced C-MON products.
Regarding the provenance of that Peter J. Michels C-MON razor from Razor Emporium: I believe it's an original -- the logo on the back of the tang matches that of this one (from this SRP thread!)
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Awesome, I think I may pick that one up wednesday then.
I have the vintage C-MON Cadillac. Got it from a barber in mint condition for $40 and it does shave great. I think it looks better than the new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grazor
sounds like you are doing well between that that and the Bartmann, half your luck. Well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindyhop66
Thank you, sir. They keep appearing and I keep accepting them.Quote:
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