So i took a members advice while i wait for my straight razor to arrive (shaving with a mach3 atm) and lathered up with proraso white. Kinda felt as if it needed more water than my van der hagen soap but needless to say, i feel like im definately getting the hang of the consistency of my lather. Dont really care for the oats scent on the white proraso. I also bought the green and red, ill give those a go later this week! [emoji41]