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07-13-2015, 12:37 AM #1
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Thanked: 5My first attempt at SR shaving
I have been DE shaving for 4 months after having used electric razors for the last 30 years or so. After reading all the great information on the forum, I decided to break out my Dad’s King straight and give it a try. I sent it off to a reputable company for restoration, scale replacement, and honing. It came back better than I had expected.
I watched all the videos, tutorials, and Lynn’s DVD (multiple times) so I thought it was about time. So this morning I gave it a try on my cheeks only. This was also my first time using Tabac soap, which turns out to be the slickest product I have used to date. Having read the advice to not strop the first time a razor came back from honing so I could know what a sharp razor is, I did not strop. However, even using the Tabac, the razor seemed to really tug. I got a very close shave (WTG only) with no nicks or cuts, but it tugged on both cheeks. I was very careful to keep the blade within on spine’s with of my skin. I was pretty slow with the blade and used short strokes with almost no pressure. After the shave, I dried the blade and scales; stropped 20 passes on linen and 30 on leather. I will strop 50 passes on leather prior to next use.
My question; have I destroyed the honing job or can I strop prior to the next shave and bring it back; or is it just my technique? Or...is there really a problem and I am just getting a lot of feedback from the razor? I did have two days growth.
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07-13-2015, 12:45 AM #2
i would guess it's just technique, the correct amount of pressure is just enough to wipe off the lather. also might experiment with different angles. if your stropping technique is good than no harm will be done to the razor. you'll have to wait till your next shave to see.
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07-13-2015, 02:18 AM #3
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Thanked: 4830Sometimes starting with an heirloom razor is not the wisest choice. As beginners we tend to beat the gear up a little. You may want to seriously insider getting a second razor sooner rather than later.
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07-13-2015, 01:02 PM #4
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Thanked: 5Thank you both for the input. I do believe it is probably my technique. I plan to continue with the Tabac for a while as I finished the shave with my Fatboy and got a BBS. Also, that is good advice of not using my Dad's razor very much. I have a new Ralf Aust that I acquired from SRD and of course it was honed prior to shipment. I will give it a try for my next shave. Thanks again for your help.
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07-13-2015, 01:26 PM #5
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07-13-2015, 02:16 PM #6
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Thanked: 5Thanks Ernie1980....Question on stropping. I made a practice paddle strop and used an old razor I purchased at an antique shop for a while. I have watched multiple videos and they all seem to strop slower or very fast. I particularly like the video by Anthony Esposito on YouTube and he goes fairly slow. It seems you can be more careful and much more precise going a little slower, especially since I am new. Some posts say speed matters and Anthony doesn't. I realize one shouldn't go extremely slow. So, I guess I am asking whether speed really matters?
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07-18-2015, 02:25 PM #7
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Thanked: 23RaptorAddict hinted at this but 'resistance' is often mistaken for 'pulling' when just starting out. Because the leverage is so much different when transitioning to a straight from a traditional razor it feels like it isn't cutting through the whiskers especially with coarse whiskers. And that is exacerbated with incorrect blade angle. After the standard 100 shaves you get a feel for how much resistance your whiskers provide and you can tell when it's pulling.
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07-19-2015, 12:39 AM #8
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Thanked: 5I want to thank you all for the help so far. The advice about the shiny lather and the resistance/pulling is especially what I need to hear at this point. I believe I have been using too narrow of an angle with the razor almost flat and I tried a two-spine width angle yesterday with better results. I am still getting quite a lot of tugging, but I probably still don't have the angle quite right. I tried some MWF yesterday and worked it until shiny; it seemed to work pretty well, but still dried quickly. The recommendation to lather in sections is good advice as I am about as fast as a slow snail. I am especially struggling with the left hand coordination, but it is coming along. Again, thank you all for the help and encouragement!!!
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07-30-2015, 03:00 AM #9
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Thanked: 5An update on my progress: After shaving WTG on both cheeks, I decided to try to go up on the neck and found I am not there yet. This morning I tried to do the same, watching both pressure and angle, but still had some pretty bad razor burn. I have decided to back off and go very slow and get comfortable with the razor in both hands on a WTG pass for cheeks and neck only before going further. I tried going cold rather than hot, but didn't see any difference. It is all about technique and it is going to take me some time to figure it out. However, I am not one to give up and I am sure it will eventually come to me.
I am not really sure how light a touch is needed. If I go too light with a shallow angle, the stubble will not be cut. If I go a little heavier, I get razor burn. I know I need to work on the proper stretching of the skin. But after watching the Geofatboy video, I tried his technique just under the nose and it really irritated the area. He seems to use a greater angle, of which I tried and my skin is still healing from the scrapping. It is almost like a light carpet burn. I will regroup after healing and try again. I have also found that sticking with a soap rather than a cream is better for me at this time (Tabac and MWF).
Thanks again for all the help.
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07-31-2015, 01:05 AM #10
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Thanked: 5Another short update to my ongoing SR shaving saga. It is amazing how shaves from day to day can be different. I had a great shave today. There are several things I did different than I had been doing previously. I used the following today:
Washed face with Shea Butter soap; damp dried and applied Proraso while I made lather. Prior to lathering I applied hot towel to face X 2, then reapplied Proraso.
Preshave: Proraso Green Tea & Oatmeal before each pass.
Razors: Ralf Aust 5/8 Straight Razor (cheeks/neck WTG; cheeks only XTG). Gillette 1961 Fatboy (finished ATG only)
Soap: Mama Bear, Sandalwood/Rose
Brush: Vie-Long, Horse Hair (1st time to use it)
Post shave: Thayers Rose Witch Hazel; Lucky Tiger AS Tonic
The details I changed included using the Proraso between each pass as I had only used it before the 1st pass before. I lathered in sections, which seemed to help with the soap drying too quickly. The soap and the brush were also different. Ever since I had been wet shaving I had used alum over my entire face to calm the burn. I did not use it today and had no burn at all. I am now wondering if I am allergic to alum.
I am getting a little better each time with the SR; this was my 9th partial practice shave.
Are there any comments or suggestions?
Thanks in advance.Last edited by Grayelk; 07-31-2015 at 01:07 AM. Reason: Forgot a few items.