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plaza New to SR shaving - dull... 12-10-2016, 09:18 PM
Marshal It really doesn't take a lot... 12-10-2016, 09:46 PM
gssixgun First: set your strop on the... 12-10-2016, 09:55 PM
plaza Thanks, I will try doing that... 12-10-2016, 10:05 PM
plaza Ok - so I did exactly this... 12-11-2016, 11:23 PM
gssixgun At least you tried it out ... 12-11-2016, 11:28 PM
tcrideshd my friend you cant get that... 12-12-2016, 12:21 AM
plaza Darn, I guess I must have... 12-10-2016, 09:59 PM
KenWeir It doesn't take much to roll... 12-10-2016, 10:08 PM
gssixgun There are guys in Norway that... 12-10-2016, 10:19 PM
tcrideshd also keep in mind your new at... 12-11-2016, 12:15 AM
KenWeir That was the case for me. I... 12-11-2016, 01:13 AM
Wayne1963 When I was newbie, all razors... 12-11-2016, 05:50 AM
gcbryan I know honing and newbie... 12-11-2016, 06:15 AM
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    Default New to SR shaving - dull blade?

    Hey everyone,

    So after about 2 years of enjoying wet shaving with a safety razor I finally took the plunge and purchased my first straight razor, a DOVO Bergischer Love and a strop.
    I purchased mine from West Coast Shaving and chose to have it professionally honed.

    My first shave with it was as I was expecting to be honest pretty bad, few minor cuts but I had a burning sensation on my face that day, almost screamed when putting my alum on after the shave hehe.
    The razor felt plenty sharp but the shave wasn't super close, I blamed it on technique really.

    I've since then shaved 4 times (not a lot), stropping is going well, watched plenty of videos of stropping and even though I'm no expert I feel I'm doing it right, just going slow at the moment.

    However my blade just feels like it's getting duller and duller with each shave. Just did a 2 pass shave just now and it just didn't remove any hair at all really. Was pretty annoyed.
    Don't know what I'm doing wrong, it must have something to do with my stropping, can you really get the blade this dull so quickly?

    It's not passing the falling hair test at all, I just tried shaving a bit of my forearm and really, it's not cutting very well. It cuts some for sure but it just passes over most.

    Could it be that maybe it wasn't properly honed, seems unlikely. Or may I have done something wrong in this short time of owning it that may have dulled it this much?
    Is it possible my technique is just that bad? Is the falling hair test and the fact I'm having a hard time shaving the hair of my forearm no indication that it's dull?

    I live in a fairly isolated part of the world here in Iceland and to my knowledge there is no one here that would hone a straight razor, Wouldn't surprise me if I was the only person here that uses one really
    If I need to have it sent somewhere to be honed I will, was hoping it wouldn't have to be in the first week I received it though


    Any advise?

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    It really doesn't take a lot to ruin an edge. Lift the spine of the razor slightly while stropping, especially if you're using paste, and that may be all it takes. I might suggest not using paste until you're better with linen and leather. Could also be any number of things - if you used the thumbnail test a little too often to check sharpness, or you used your finger pad but didn't get the oils and salts from your skin off the blade suitably it may be pitted.

    If it's not removing hair, or the razor is tugging at all, then it's dull and time for it to be re-honed. You may want to consider picking up a second, that way you'll still have a shaver when one gets dull and needs to be sent off.

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    First: set your strop on the edge of a counter/table and do 100 laps as perfect as possible...

    Second:

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    First: set your strop on the edge of a counter/table and do 100 laps as perfect as possible...

    Second:


    Thanks, I will try doing that stropping technique and than do a shave test, if that doesn't go well I will send it off to be honed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    First: set your strop on the edge of a counter/table and do 100 laps as perfect as possible...

    Second:

    Ok - so I did exactly this and I'm now pretty convinced my blade has lost it's edge.
    The razor has even stopped producing that sweet, sweet sound that my full hollowed blade did the first two times I shaved.

    I still managed to get some hefty razor burns though, guess it's cutting up my face even though it's not cutting those whiskers
    I tried focusing on the right angle and applying very light pressure, I will get there in the end

    I'm going to see about getting a second straight and sending this one to be honed.
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    At least you tried it out

    Many times any damage caused by incorrect stropping can be solved by correct stropping... not always

    When you get the razors back from honing, I suggest you do exactly what is in that vid with them as perfect as possible before stropping ..
    This will give you a baseline to have as a standard from then on..

    Good luck
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    my friend you cant get that bad razor burn even with a dull edge unless your using to much pressure and a steep angle, you really need to start with that blade almost flat on your face and just shave the lather without pressure.

    I know you think your going light, but the razor burn says otherwise, your scraping your face. I can say this to you also, I,m pretty sure your razor is dull from the stropping, or it never was shave ready to begin with, maybe only factory edge. but one thing I learned was once you actually learn how to shave with a straight, sometimes you go back to a blade you thought was dull and find it shaves pretty good, technique and prep really has a big effect on shaving like this. but without knowing your blade, id say start off with a known edge and then learn what is going wrong, if the UK is best for you go with a reputable guy. Jamie(celticrusader) can put on an edge that will be right. if you can send to the US I personally can say Glen (gssixgun) will put on a killer edge,,

    being new its so hard to figure out what your doing wrong cause you just haven't gotten it yet, but you just cant get there till the edge is right, then its up to the guy in the mirror who is typically the problem good luck and happy shaving Tc
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    Darn, I guess I must have done something wrong somewhere. I may well have lifted the spine when stropping at some point, if that is all it takes I feel it won't be with me for long after every hone, that is until my technique gets a little better

    I wish I could get a second opinion somehow before having it sent off, but I guess the best way to find out is just to have it honed and than I will know the difference for sure.
    Was hoping it would last a little longer before I would ruin the edge, but oh well.

    Any recommendations on where to get it honed? I see that The Invisible Edge in the UK are doing this, I guess delivery to England would be cheaper and quicker for me since I am in Europe.

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    It doesn't take much to roll the edge. It's difficult to say without having seen it but I'd wager your first shave the blade was at too steep an angle & too much pressure applied. That would explain the razor burn. Correct stropping is also really important. One mess up, like lifting the spine off the leather, could exacerbate the problem.

    On the other hand it could possibly have just been a dull razor, but I wouldn't expect the shaves to get progressively worse so quickly if that were the case.

    Gssixgun's post is a good way to find out if it's a rolled edge.
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    There are guys in Norway that hone, I don't know anyone in Iceland off hand but there is a separate sub-forum for your region that you can ask in


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