I need some help building lather from shaving soap.

I am using Classic Brand (coconut lime sent) soap with a supper badger brush from Edwin Jagger. The result I get from my lather efforts is similar to liquid hand-soap. Once I apply a thick coat of ‘suds’ I set the brush down and look back in the mirror, what little lather I had on my face has almost completely evaporated.

I have tried to build the lather on my face, in a scuttle, and a bowl with a textured bottom.

I have tried to use a dry brush, wet brush, and several variations in between.

I have also tried to add water as I work the brush in the scuttle/bowl.

I have even used a pure badger brush (v. my EJ silver tip).

I do not have this problem with shaving cream (EJ’s Sandalwood and no sent AOS).

My shaving cream lather is sometimes a little pasty, but I have found that a little more water and a few seconds of work create a nice thick soapy lather that stays put (does not evaporate).

All my efforts with the shaving soap have not changed the results. Does anybody have some suggestions on how to work shaving soap into lather?