I'm shaving yesterday with my DOVO and it's very comfortable WTG. I started an ATG pass under my chin and was having problems with grabbing and just not cutting right. Consequently I ended up with some redness. I'm going to try my Wapi today and see if it does the same thing in an attempt to see if it's my technique or a razor issue. I know the ATG pass is difficult and maybe best reserved for the experienced, but with my tough beard it seems to be the only way to get a close shave, and that's why I keep at it. What are everyones thoughts here?