Okay, I admit to being somewhat confused here. I haven't even purchased a razor yet, I am trying to learn as much as I can first. I am considering buying a new Dovo. Would a new Chinese 12k water hone bring it up to speed? I don't want to spend quite so much money on a new Norton. Also, I have read and watched videos about honing, stropping etc. Everybody says it will take some time to get the technique down. If I use correct honing and stropping technique, why does it take so long? Will the hone and a good strop be all I need?